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Week 1: It’s Go Time - 11 comments

By Drew Szczerba

Welcome back to another year of your favorite Cafe feature, Start & Sit. We’ve have a wonderful turnout for the 2010 season, with many Cafe members joining me for these first week’s ratings, and several other members pledging to contribute their time in future weeks. Much thanks to all our rankers this year, including Dan Lambskin, daullaz, seahawks506 and 204BC in Week 1.
 
In 2010, we’re ranking all the players we expect could see a significant amount of game action each week. We factor in a player’s overall ability, his weekly matchup, and the current status of his health. The result is one Start/Sit number, based on a scale of 100, and we’ll use each member’s ratings to find an average for each player. The higher a guy is on our list, the better you should feel starting him.
 

RankQuarterbacksTeamOpponentAverage
1Peyton ManningINDat HOU92.40
2Aaron RodgersGBat PHI92.00
3Drew BreesNOMIN90.80
4Matt SchaubHOUIND83.60
5Philip RiversSDat KC82.60
6Tony RomoDALat WAS82.40
7Tom BradyNECIN82.00
8Jay CutlerCHIDET80.80
9Eli ManningNYGCAR70.80
10Matt RyanATLat PIT70.00
11Carson PalmerCINat NE69.20
12Kyle OrtonDENat JAC68.60
13Matthew StaffordDETat CHI68.40
14Kevin KolbPHIGB68.20
15Brett FavreMINat NO67.97
16Alex SmithSFat SEA66.00
17Joe FlaccoBALat NYJ64.60
18Derek AndersonARIat STL64.00
19Matt MooreCARat NYG63.20
T-19Vince YoungTENOAK63.20
21Jason CampbellOAKat TEN62.05
22Donovan McNabbWASDAL61.94
23Chad HenneMIAat BUF61.40
24David GarrardJACDEN59.20
25Sam BradfordSTLARI58.60
26Matt CasselKCSD58.40
27Dennis DixonPITATL58.00
28Josh FreemanTBCLE57.23
29Jake DelhommeCLEat TB57.20
30Trent EdwardsBUFMIA57.00
31Mark SanchezNYJBAL56.60
32Matt HasselbeckSEASF55.40

 
Start: Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears. Cutler has been falling in drafts throughout the preseason thanks to offensive coordinator Mike Martz’s somewhat controversial decision not to play an offensive line. His value was also hurt by his own reputation as a petulant brat. Now I admit some of that reputation is well-earned, but a lot of it is due to the fact that he just looks like someone you want to root against. But not this week, when he gets the Lions in what is sure to be a high scoring affair. Detroit’s offense seems to have taken a step forward from last year, and the Bears are likely to keep throwing to stay ahead of the curve. Cutler may throw a pick or two, but I look for him to pile up the yards and connect for two or three scores.
 
Sit: Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens. If you drafted Flacco this season, you probably did so as part of a committee. This is the week to go with the other half of that committee. The Ravens travel to New York to face the Jets who get Darrelle Revis back after a lengthy holdout. Even without Revis, this would have been a tough assignment for the Ravens passing attack. With Revis back in the fold, the Jets need to be back atop your defensive ranks. More importantly, Flacco needs to be on your bench.
 
RankRunning BacksTeamOpponentAverage
1Chris JohnsonTENOAK98.20
2Adrian PetersonMINat NO92.80
3Frank GoreSFat SEA91.80
4Maurice Jones-DrewJACDEN88.17
5Ryan MathewsSDat KC84.60
6Steven JacksonSTLARI83.50
7Ronnie BrownMIAat BUF83.00
8Michael TurnerATLat PIT82.00
9DeAngelo WilliamsCARat NYG81.40
10Ray RiceBALat NYJ81.20
11Ryan GrantGBat PHI78.00
12Matt ForteCHIDET77.40
13Cedric BensonCINat NE77.00
14Arian FosterHOUIND76.80
15Jerome HarrisonCLEat TB76.60
16Ricky WilliamsMIAat BUF75.20
17Rashard MendenhallPITATL74.97
18Jahvid BestDETat CHI74.80
19Jamaal CharlesKCSD74.40
T-19Ahmad BradshawNYGCAR74.40
21Cadillac WilliamsTBCLE72.80
22Beanie WellsARIat STL72.22
23Joseph AddaiINDat HOU71.40
24Jonathan StewartCARat NYG70.60
25Marion BarberDALat WAS70.40
26Pierre ThomasNOMIN69.60
27Shonn GreeneNYJBAL68.60
28LeSean McCoyPHIGB68.00
29Brandon JacobsNYGCAR67.60
30C.J. SpillerBUFMIA67.40
31Tim HightowerARIat STL66.60
32Felix JonesDALat WAS65.80
33Darren SprolesSDat KC64.60
34Thomas JonesKCSD63.60
35Chester TaylorCHIDET63.40
36Darren McFaddenOAKat TEN63.00
37Clinton PortisWASDAL62.80
38Kareem HugginsTBCLE61.60
39Reggie BushNOMIN61.20
40Knowshon MorenoDENat JAC61.01
41Justin ForsettSEASF60.60
42Peyton HillsCLEat TB58.60
43Donald BrownINDat HOU58.20
44Fred TaylorNECIN55.00
45Anthony DixonSFat SEA54.40
46Leon WashingtonSEASF53.80
47LaDainian TomlinsonNYJBAL53.40
48Correll BuckhalterDENat JAC53.36
49Brian WestbrookSFat SEA49.53
50Marshawn LynchBUFMIA48.80
51Steve SlatonHOUIND47.76
52Mike BellPHIGB47.60
53Fred JacksonBUFMIA46.03
54Kevin FaulkNECIN45.82
55Laurence MaroneyNECIN45.40
56Kevin SmithDETat CHI44.87
57Larry JohnsonWASDAL41.40
58Sammy MorrisNECIN40.20
T-58Javon RingerTENOAK40.20
60Rashad JenningsJACDEN40.00
61BenJarvus Green-EllisNECIN39.84
62James DavisCLEat TB39.60
63Bernard ScottCINat NE38.60
64Toby GerhartMINat NO37.60
65Derrick WardHOUIND37.20
66Tashard ChoiceDALat WAS36.80
T-66Brandon JacksonGBat PHI36.80
68Willis McGaheeBALat NYJ35.40
69Mewelde MoorePITATL33.00
70Jerious NorwoodATLat PIT32.40
71Jason SnellingATLat PIT31.60
72Leonard WeaverPHIGB31.20
73Kenneth DarbySTLARI29.10
74Khalil BellCHIDET28.80
75Maurice MorrisDETat CHI27.80
76Michael BennettOAKat TEN27.20
77Deji KarimJACDEN26.20
T-77Keiland WilliamsWASDAL26.20
79Albert YoungMINat NO19.80
80Danny WareNYGCAR19.60
81Isaac RedmanPITATL19.40
82Jackie BattleKCSD19.20
83DeShawn WynnNOMIN15.60
84Joe McKnightNYJBAL14.40
85Michael BushOAKat TEN5.60

 
Start: Tim Hightower, Arizona Cardinals. People tend to favor Chris Wells simply because he’s more “talented” and “explosive.” Whatever. Those are just words. Throughout the preseason, the buzz around Cardinals camp has been that the coaches like Hightower a lot because he does all of the little things (which I assume is essential if you don’t do the big things). Now Wells is hurt and, while he may still play, Hightower is expected to be the Week 1 starter. Combine that with a favorable matchup (Rams), and you’ve got yourself a solid RB2 to open the season.
 
Sit: Knowshon Moreno, Denver Broncos. Moreno has said his hamstring feels “better” and that he’s 80% healthy to start the season. This tells me two things. One, he’s 20% unhealthy (math has always been kind of “my thing”). And two, the Broncos are going to be very cautious with him. Moreno is an exceptional runner, but Denver isn’t going to push him knowing that a re-injury would cost him several weeks. Unless you’re in a deeper league, I’d recommend a wait and see approach with Moreno this week.
 
RankWide ReceiversTeamOpponentAverage
1Calvin JohnsonDETat CHI90.20
2Reggie WayneINDat HOU90.00
3Andre JohnsonHOUIND89.40
4Roddy WhiteATLat PIT85.40
5Randy MossNECIN84.80
6Larry FitzgeraldARIat STL84.45
7Miles AustinDALat WAS84.40
8Greg JenningsGBat PHI83.60
9Marques ColstonNOMIN83.33
10Steve SmithCARat NYG82.78
11Michael CrabtreeSFat SEA81.00
12DeSean JacksonPHIGB79.20
13Hines WardPITATL79.00
14Brandon MarshallMIAat BUF78.60
15Johnny KnoxCHIDET78.20
16Malcom FloydSDat KC77.80
17Chad OchocincoCINat NE76.20
18Pierre GarconINDat HOU75.80
19Dwayne BoweKCSD75.60
20Donald DriverGBat PHI74.00
T-20Steve SmithNYGCAR74.00
22Percy HarvinMINat NO73.92
23Santana MossWASDAL73.60
24Mike Sims-WalkerJACDEN72.80
T-24Mike WilliamsTBCLE72.80
26Mike WallacePITATL72.40
27Devin AromashoduCHIDET72.20
28Jabar GaffneyDENat JAC72.00
29Devin HesterCHIDET71.00
T-29Terrell OwensCINat NE71.00
31Hakeem NicksNYGCAR70.60
32Jeremy MaclinPHIGB70.00
33Anquan BoldinBALat NYJ69.60
34Lee EvansBUFMIA67.60
35Legedu NaaneeSDat KC66.60
36Eddie RoyalDENat JAC65.60
37Steve BreastonARIat STL65.40
38Austin CollieINDat HOU64.60
39Nate BurlesonDETat CHI64.20
T-39Robert MeachemNOMIN64.20
41Wes WelkerNECIN63.97
42Mohamed MassaquoiCLEat TB63.20
43Louis MurphyOAKat TEN63.00
44Mike ThomasJACDEN62.60
T-44Bernard BerrianMINat NO62.60
46Josh MorganSFat SEA62.50
47Sammie StroughterTBCLE62.40
48Laurent RobinsonSTLARI62.03
49Jacoby JonesHOUIND62.00
50Braylon EdwardsNYJBAL61.40
51Devery HendersonNOMIN61.00
52Mike WilliamsSEASF60.20
53Chris ChambersKCSD59.20
54Derrick MasonBALat NYJ58.80
55Early DoucetARIat STL58.60
56Kevin WalterHOUIND58.00
T-56Kenny BrittTENOAK58.00
58Dez BryantDALat WAS57.02
59Danny AmendolaSTLARI56.60
60Nate WashingtonTENOAK56.40
61Jerricho CotcheryNYJBAL56.20
62James JonesGBat PHI56.00
63Anthony GonzalezINDat HOU55.80
64Josh CribbsCLEat TB55.20
65Jordan ShipleyCINat NE55.00
66Dwayne JarrettCARat NYG54.60
67Dexter McClusterKCSD54.40
68Mario ManninghamNYGCAR54.20
T-68Deion BranchSEASF54.20
70Ted Ginn Jr.SFat SEA52.90
71Steve JohnsonBUFMIA52.80
T-71Brian RobiskieCLEat TB52.80
T-71Brian HartlineMIAat BUF52.80
74Justin GageTENOAK52.40
75Harry DouglasATLat PIT52.20
T-75Greg CamarilloMINat NO52.20
T-75Darrius Heyward-BeyOAKat TEN52.20
78Maurice StovallTBCLE52.00
T-78Joey GallowayWASDAL52.00
80Lance MooreNOMIN51.80
81Arrelious BennTBCLE51.60
82Roy WilliamsDALat WAS51.30
83Roscoe ParrishBUFMIA50.80
84T.J. HoushmandzadehBALat NYJ50.00
85Jason AvantPHIGB48.80
86Julian EdelmanNECIN47.77
87Davone BessMIAat BUF45.60
88Golden TateSEASF45.40
89Brandon LaFellCARat NYG42.40
90Brandon GibsonSTLARI42.00
91Antwaan Randel ElPITATL41.60
92Bryant JohnsonDETat CHI41.40
93Patrick CraytonSDat KC40.00
94Deon ButlerSEASF39.20
95Devin ThomasWASDAL38.40
96Jordy NelsonGBat PHI38.00
97Eric DeckerDENat JAC37.60
98Craig DavisSDat KC35.60
99Mark ClaytonSTLARI35.20
100Michael JenkinsATLat PIT33.80
101Demaryius ThomasDENat JAC32.92
102Anthony ArmstrongWASDAL32.80
103Brandon TateNECIN31.60
104Emmanuel SandersPITATL29.40
105Yamon FigursOAKat TEN28.80
106Jarrett DillardJACDEN28.00
107David AndersonHOUIND26.60
108Brad SmithNYJBAL26.40
109Victor CruzNYGCAR24.80
110Andre CaldwellCINat NE24.60
111Lavelle HawkinsTENOAK23.40
112Riley CooperPHIGB23.00
113Charly MartinCARat NYG17.80
114Rasheid DavisCHIDET17.60
115Stephen WilliamsARIat STL17.20
116Derrick WilliamsDETat CHI14.80
117Brian FinneranATLat PIT14.00
118Chansi StuckeyCLEat TB12.80
119Terrance CopperKCSD12.20
120Kasim OsgoodJACDEN11.80

 
Start: Percy Harvin, Minnesota Vikings. Harvin is going to do more than a little bit of everything in this game for three reasons. Sidney Rice (hip) is out of the lineup. Brett Favre doesn’t appear to have good chemistry with Bernard Berrian. The Vikings have stated they want to get Harvin some looks as the outside wide receiver. These factors, combined with Harvin’s established ability as an underneath receiver, add up to a solid WR2 with upside beyond that.
 
Sit: Dez Bryant, Dallas Cowboys. Expectations for Bryant are sky high thanks to his nearly unparalleled physical tools. Unfortunately, Bryant is still working his way back from an ankle injury that forced him to miss much of the preseason. Bryant may well be a fantasy star, but it won’t be this week against a Washington team that ranked in the top eight against the pass last year.
 
RankTight EndsTeamOpponentAverage
1Antonio GatesSDat KC94.00
2Vernon DavisSFat SEA93.00
3Dallas ClarkINDat HOU91.65
4Jermichael FinleyGBat PHI87.60
5Jason WittenDALat WAS83.80
6Brent CelekPHIGB82.40
7Kellen WinslowTBCLE82.32
8Tony GonzalezATLat PIT79.80
9Zach MillerOAKat TEN78.50
10Greg OlsenCHIDET78.20
11Chris CooleyWASDAL75.30
12Visanthe ShiancoeMINat NO73.80
13Heath MillerPITATL72.80
14John CarlsonSEASF70.20
15Jeremy ShockeyNOMIN69.13
16Kevin BossNYGCAR66.40
17Tony SchefflerDETat CHI66.20
18Dustin KellerNYJBAL63.60
19Jermaine GreshamCINat NE63.40
20Ben WatsonCLEat TB60.90
21Todd HeapBALat NYJ59.20
22Daniel GrahamDENat JAC58.40
23Anthony FasanoMIAat BUF58.20
24Ben PatrickARIat STL58.00
T-24Marcedes LewisJACDEN58.00
26Bo ScaifeTENOAK56.80
27Jeff KingCARat NYG56.60
28Michael HoomanawanuiSTLARI55.20
29Owen DanielsHOUIND54.98
30Leonard PopeKCSD54.40
31Jonathan StuparBUFMIA54.00
32Aaron HernandezNECIN52.56
33Brandon PettigrewDETat CHI50.00
34Dante RosarioCARat NYG47.40
35Rob GronkowskiNECIN42.80
36Fred DavisWASDAL37.70
37Daniel FellsSTLARI22.60
38Donald LeeGBat PHI21.20
39Zach MillerJACDEN21.00
40Martellus BennettDALat WAS12.60

 
Start: Zach Miller, Oakland Raiders. It’s all relative. In Oakland, Jason Campbell is Peyton Manning simply by not being JaMarcus Russell. Never has ordinary been so extraordinary. Still, the Raiders receivers don’t exactly inspire confidence. Louis Murphy is decent (and probably a good sleeper). But Chaz Schilens continues to be injured and Darrius Heyward-Bey continues to be Darrius Heyward-Bey. That leaves Miller as the likely recipient of a ton on targets. Look for him to catch 6–8 of those targets this week and maybe even find the end zone.
 
Sit: Dustin Keller, New York Jets. Keller is an athletic, pass-catching tight end, but he has a couple of things working against him. First, the Jets are a run-first, run-second team, meaning Keller isn’t likely to see a lot of targets. Second, when the Jets have thrown this preseason they’ve looked awful. Put it all together and the Jets passing attack doesn’t appear to have the quality or the quantity to make Keller worthy of a start for your team this week.
 
RankTeam DefenseTeamOpponentAverage
1JetsNYJBAL84.80
2RavensBALat NYJ82.80
349ersSFat SEA82.40
4PackersGBat PHI78.00
T-4VikingsMINat NO78.00
6ChargersSDat KC77.20
7CowboysDALat WAS76.80
8TitansTENOAK75.80
9DolphinsMIAat BUF74.40
10BearsCHIDET73.80
T-10SteelersPITATL73.80
12SaintsNOMIN73.20
13BroncosDENat JAC71.80
14PatriotsNECIN71.40
15EaglesPHIGB70.40
16CardinalsARIat STL70.20
17GiantsNYGCAR69.80
18BuccaneersTBCLE69.00
19FalconsATLat PIT67.80
20PanthersCARat NYG66.40
21BengalsCINat NE65.80
22ColtsINDat HOU64.00
23JaguarsJACDEN63.20
24BrownsCLEat TB62.60
T-24RedskinsWASDAL62.60
26BillsBUFMIA61.40
27TexansHOUIND60.20
28SeahawksSEASF59.40
29LionsDETat CHI58.60
T-29RaidersOAKat TEN58.60
31RamsSTLARI58.00
32ChiefsKCSD56.40

 
Start: San Francisco 49ers. The 49ers finished 15th in total defense last year but appear to be poised to take a step forward in 2010. Even if that step is a small one, it should be enough to do well in Week 1 against Seattle. The Seahawks finished outside the top 20 in offense in 2009 and are likely remain near the bottom of the pack. I look for the 49ers to put up enough points to force Seattle’s offense to take chances. From there, I’m confident the Seahawks don’t have enough playmakers to make those chances pay off.
 
Sit: Minnesota Vikings. The Vikings were one of the first defenses off the board in most drafts, but this week you may be better off picking up a replacement. They’ll travel to New Orleans for a rematch of last year’s NFC Championship game. For those who’ve forgotten, Minnesota was well on their way to the Super Bowl until Brett Favre became the first player in NFL history to actually retire during a game. He’s back now, but he won’t be able to help a Vikings defense that has the unenviable task of trying to stop an offense that doesn’t make mistakes. Drew Brees and company are one of a handful of elite groups you want your fantasy defense to avoid.
 
Editor’s note: Drew goes ‘off the board’ here by deciding to sit the Vikings D. He has Minnesota 13th overall (behind NYJ, SF, DAL, GB, ARZ, DEN, SD, BAL, MIA, NYG, NO, PIT), while our panel considers them a top five option.
 
RankKickersTeamOpponentAverage
1Nate KaedingSDat KC86.20
2Ryan LongwellMINat NO83.80
3Mason CrosbyGBat PHI82.00
4Neil RackersHOUIND81.60
5Robbie GouldCHIDET80.60
6Garrett HartleyNOMIN80.40
7David AkersPHIGB79.80
8Rob BironasTENOAK78.60
9Stephen GostkowskiNECIN77.80
10Matt PraterDENat JAC76.20
11Jay FeelyARIat STL75.60
12Lawrence TynesNYGCAR75.20
13Adam VinatieriINDat HOU74.40
14Joe NedneySFat SEA73.00
15Jason HansonDETat CHI72.80
16David BuehlerDALat WAS72.20
17Phil DawsonCLEat TB71.40
18Dan CarpenterMIAat BUF71.20
19Nick FolkNYJBAL70.80
20Sebastian JanikowskiOAKat TEN70.20
T-20Jeff ReedPITATL70.20
22Mike NugentCINat NE67.80
23Matt BryantATLat PIT67.00
24Josh ScobeeJACDEN66.40
25Rian LindellBUFMIA66.20
26John KasayCARat NYG65.60
27Olindo MareSEASF64.20
28Ryan SuccopKCSD64.00
T-28Connor BarthTBCLE64.00
30Billy CundiffBALat NYJ63.80
31Graham GanoWASDAL60.40
32Josh BrownSTLARI59.80

 
Start: Rob Bironas, Tennessee Titans. He’ll face Oakland this week and, while I think the Raiders will be better this year, Tennessee is a good bet to sustain some long drives and ultimately win the game. Still, I’m betting Oakland’s defense is good enough to stop a few of those drives before the end zone, resulting in a couple of extra field goals.
 
Sit: Billy Cundiff, Baltimore Ravens. The good news is I’d be surprised if the Jets new stadium is as tough to kick in as their old one. The bad news is I’d be equally surprised if Billy Cundiff gets more than a single attempt to find out.

 
Drew is a lifelong Jets fan. Playing and writing about fantasy football has proven helpful in easing the pain.
 
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11 Responses to “Week 1: It’s Go Time”

  1. Treyvian says:

    I would also look at WR Johnny Knox as a “Start” This week up against Det. In an Offensive scheme that favors him above the others in Chicago. And my “Sit” pick would be Anquan Boldin who many people still drafted very high in their drafts.

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  2. User avatar Case Ace1 says:

    Yes, I would consider Boldin a “Sit.” However, I didn’t want to focus too much on the Jets/Ravens game.

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  3. User avatar Luca Brasi says:

    Drew, Thanks for the rankings. I have a question. Can I compare your ratings between WR and RB to determine who best to play at my flex?

    For example, Pierre Thomas is rated 69.60 and Mike Sims-Walker is rated 72.80. Would I be prudent to compare these numbers, or are your calculations based on different factors involved that don’t allow comparison between the two positions?

    Thanks.

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  4. User avatar krsmith16 says:

    I know McNabb has a bum ankle and all…but ranking him below guys like Anderson, Young, Moore and Campbell??

    Really?

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  5. User avatar Case Ace1 says:

    Luca, tough call for me in PPR, but I’d stick with Thomas in a non-PPR format in spite of the Vikings tough run ‘D.’
    ~Drew

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  6. Hippo45 says:

    Terrible picks at kicker. Barth 28th? Is that a joke? I can already say you messed up with Longwell and Hartley, but that is after the game has been played. So I won’t criticize you for those two. But honestly how do you figure out your rankings?

    Gresham 19th TE? Patriots will have to focus on shutting down Ochocinco and TO with their beat up secondary. Gresham should steamroll over the Patriots. I can’t believe you have Greg Olsen 10th and Gresham 19th. Martz doesn’t utilize a tight end. Please explain Olsen’s ranking.

    Why is there such a huge separation between Jennings and Driver? On any given week Driver can put up just as many points as Jennings. Samuel will most likely cover Jennings and Hobbs (who underwent neck surgery) will most likely be covering Driver. I think Driver would be the safer bet this week.

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  7. nuz1316 says:

    I need some advice. I have 1 WR, 1 RB, and 1 flex spot that I still need to fill. Who should i start out of the following:

    RB: Jahvid Best, Marion Barber
    WR: Jeremy Maclin, Terrell Owens, Johnny Knox

    Any thoughts/advice will be greatly appreciated!!!!

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  8. User avatar Case Ace1 says:

    Hippo,
    The player ratings are an average of several rankers here at the Cafe. My rankings are factored in, but there are many others that make up the final lists. That said, I don’t know how much higher Connor Barth should be. He’s not someone you want to start until the Bucs show they can move the ball consistently on offense.
    As for Gresham, while I do see your point, one could also take the opposite view. The Bengals are a run-first team and, when they do pass, Gresham is not likely to be targeted as much as the WRs.

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  9. Hippo45 says:

    Sorry, I did not realize it was an average of several rankers. I thought this was solely your rankings.

    The Bucs are going against one of the easiest defenses this week. They should have no trouble moving the ball. Also, Barth can make 50+ yard field goals which means they don’t have to move the ball as far. The game has all the makings of a great kicking day for Barth.

    Gresham was targeted often in the preseason by Palmer compared to Olsen who will rarely be utilized in the passing game. I would be very surprised if Olsen does better than Gresham this week.

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  10. User avatar daullaz says:

    Luca, I think you can typically give about a five point advantage to RBs when comparing potential flex players. In your case, it would have led to Thomas being selected over MSW.

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  11. User avatar daullaz says:

    Nuz, I’d definitely start Best and Knox at their respective positions. For the flex, I think Barber is the safer option of the three remaining guys.

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