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Postby bibsybob » Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:07 pm

A simple question: Is brown worth more than Droughns in a keeper league?
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Postby Lombardi Jr » Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:50 am

I think we are killing Brown unfairly a couple of weeks ago this guy is a can't miss stud now we are afraid of the Bungel Run Def. I think Brown will do fine this weekend.
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Postby The_Commish » Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:10 am

Lombardi Jr wrote:I think we are killing Brown unfairly.


I don't think people are really. The whole thing against him coming into the year was being injury prone and he's done nothing to disclaim that.

I think he's a nice Top 15 back, but durability will always be a concern. He's got to learn to lower his pads -- he's just such a vulnerable target for defenders as is.
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Postby Estarr01 » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:09 am

I lilke the cafe, but a lot of people jump on the bandwagon just to quick.

Brown has had two down weeks and did have injury problems in the past, but to give up on a guy who been a top 10 back just because he has turf toe is insane in my book. Your trading a potential top ten back for an aging WR in Horn??? I don't get it. Unless team is hard up for a WR I wouldn't even contemplate doing this trade, but that's just me I would rather have a to ten back than a top 10 WR.

Obviously they will stack the box with McNair down, your going from a MVP caliber player in McNair to Volek who could be good, but he's no where near the caliber of an MVP. So I do beleive Brown's numbers will go down without McNair, but not enough to sell low and that is exactly what a person would be doing if they traded Brown now, getting the least amount of value for a player who's only had 3 bad weeks and two of those weeks can be attributed to McNairs injury.

So I guess if you think that McNair is going to come back before playoff time and your not in a keeper league then try to get the best value you can for Brown, but if your in a keeper league and you believe McNair will be back before the fantasy playoffs then hold out and hope for the best.
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Postby RODOG » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:11 am

Lit teams up last year when McNair was out. I expect him to do the same. I still would keep Brown.
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Postby Gibbs_Wagon » Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:29 am

As far as being "injury prone" the upright style certainly doesn't help, but in general, the position itself is injury prone. Let's see - off the top of my head, here are other backs this year with some (lingering) injuries...

Deuce M. (ankle - healthy now)
Priest H. (ankle)
LT (groin)
A. Green (achiles)
N. Davenport
Q. Griff (acl)
Dom. Davis (ankle)
S. Davis (knee)
D. Foster(collarbone)
J. Jones (collarbone)
Miami RBs(everything)
K. Jones(ankle)
J. Fargas(turf Toe)
T. Wheatly
B. Westbrook
C. Buckhalter

of course one could say that his style just adds to the chance of his taking additional injuries, but it seems that it's a crapshoot in regards to the RB position anyway. At least he's not on IR nor has he missed substantial time. When you take a rb in fantasy, you have to assume injuries - which is why the word handcuff was invented.
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Postby TwoTallBeers » Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:05 pm

I traded Brown and McCariens week 4 for Horn and Travis Henry. I thought that was a great trade at the time but now that Henry's hurt I'd rather have Brown with me at QB than Horn any day.
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Postby Rusman » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:16 pm

Calling the Bandwagon! Get these nay sayers outta here!

Just about every RB gets injured and/or plays with an injury. It's part of the game. I think it remains to be seen how Volek will do and how that effects Brown. Apparently Volek isn't too shabby and maybe that will keep the Defense out of the box and spread out across the field.

I own Brown and have no intention of trading him.
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Postby Ricky_Christ » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:47 pm

To be fair, Tomlinson got that groin injury in a New Orleans brothel. Not quite the same thing. :-D
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Postby shockandawe_ffc » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:57 pm

Injury prone, running style, hmmm... all very interesting.... I wonder how many injuries the great backs of yesteryear use to play with but we never heard about it. You guys think Riggins played with injuries, how about a skinny little guy like Walter Payton? or Jim Brown? or Leroy Kelly?

I think there's great danger in overanalyzing a particular situation. Several weeks ago, people were ready to write off Ahman Green, now, he's awesome. Javon Walker- where did he come from? If Mewelde does bad this week- does that mean you should trade him? Or if Droughns drops the rock a couple more times this Sunday- do you drop him?

I know this- less than two weeks ago people were worried Brown's shoulder stinger was going to affect his play. Well it didn't- 14 for 55 I think was his production. It affected his QB's play and Defense play apparently because they fell behind and started throwing.

Don't overanalyze folks- ... now, does anyone know what the wind conditions will be like in Chicago this Sunday, should I play Edinger? Will it snow in Buffalo, because that will affect Arizona's Defense- use to playing in the desert, you see.
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