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Postby ike301 » Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:18 pm

So here's the situation. My opponent (what a political cliche, huh?) will be starting Palmer. I was going to start C Johnson. Basically, any TDs to Chad by Palmer will cancel out.

Is this good or bad? Is neutralizing players good or bad? Should I just sit Chad and play my next big WR? What's the strategy here?
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Postby Mercer Boy » Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:40 pm

I would always start CJ unless I have Moss, Holt, and Harrison or some insane combination like that...

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Postby ike301 » Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:47 pm

Mercer Boy wrote:I would always start CJ unless I have Moss, Holt, and Harrison or some insane combination like that...

Always use the people who you think will score you the most points.


I understand that. Of course play the studs. But I guess my question is, if Chad's value is neutrailzed by Palmer, since any TDs/yards from Chad would basically wash out any TDs/yards from Palmer, would you still play CJ or take a risk with another WR?
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Postby BrutallyHuge » Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:49 pm

ike301 wrote:
Mercer Boy wrote:I would always start CJ unless I have Moss, Holt, and Harrison or some insane combination like that...

Always use the people who you think will score you the most points.


I understand that. Of course play the studs. But I guess my question is, if Chad's value is neutrailzed by Palmer, since any TDs/yards from Chad would basically wash out any TDs/yards from Palmer, would you still play CJ or take a risk with another WR?


Play the players who will score the most points period.

Don't worry about this strategy. Every week, someone posts something like this about Culpepper. "OMG Do I uze Burleson and MRobby to offset da CPepp monsta?!??!" Try searching for those threads. If you want to save time, here's the synopsis: It's a bad idea.
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Postby ike301 » Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:52 pm

BrutallyHuge wrote:
ike301 wrote:
Mercer Boy wrote:I would always start CJ unless I have Moss, Holt, and Harrison or some insane combination like that...

Always use the people who you think will score you the most points.


I understand that. Of course play the studs. But I guess my question is, if Chad's value is neutrailzed by Palmer, since any TDs/yards from Chad would basically wash out any TDs/yards from Palmer, would you still play CJ or take a risk with another WR?


Play the players who will score the most points period.

Don't worry about this strategy. Every week, someone posts something like this about Culpepper. "OMG Do I uze Burleson and MRobby to offset da CPepp monsta?!??!" Try searching for those threads. If you want to save time, here's the synopsis: It's a bad idea.


I see your point. Another thought just came to mind. I guess it would be worth neutralizing his QB with my WR, right?

On average, I'd think a QB would accumulate more points.
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Postby saundman2000 » Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:10 pm

A QB and WR are not linked quite as much as you would imagine. Chad Johnson could have a great game even while Palmer sucks it up.

Chad gets points for catches and yards, but he doesn't lose points for drops, fumbles, etc. Palmer on the other hand (if your league uses normal QB scoring) loses points for incompletions.

It is likely that Palmer could go for something like 15/38 and 200 yards and two TDs which only equates to 16 points in my league.

Meanwhile, Chad could catch 7 of those passes for 90 yards and 0 TDs and put up 16 points.

Don't worry too much about offsetting Palmer. He is likely to offset himself with incomplete passes. Start Chad without hesitation.
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Postby Sixxgunn » Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:16 pm

Put it this way...you aren't neutralizing anything by playing certain players.Plain and simple,if you don't outscore him,you lose.If you avoid a player you think will do well to play a guy against another guy,you very well may lose out on points.If Palmer throws 2 td's to Johnson,and you play Johnson,but you have Robinson and he gets 3 td's from Moss,what have you accomplished?Probably a loss.
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Postby ike301 » Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:24 pm

Sixxgunn wrote:Put it this way...you aren't neutralizing anything by playing certain players.Plain and simple,if you don't outscore him,you lose.If you avoid a player you think will do well to play a guy against another guy,you very well may lose out on points.If Palmer throws 2 td's to Johnson,and you play Johnson,but you have Robinson and he gets 3 td's from Moss,what have you accomplished?Probably a loss.


What does robinson have to do with moss???

I'm saying he has Palmer, I have Chad. If palmer throws two tds to Chad, they both will get 12 points (plus yardage). advantage, no one.
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Postby matmat » Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:31 pm

ike301 wrote:What does robinson have to do with moss???

I'm saying he has Palmer, I have Chad. If palmer throws two tds to Chad, they both will get 12 points (plus yardage). advantage, no one.


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so will you be happy offsetting palmer if you leave another receiver who outscores palmer on the bench?

look. MAXIMIZE YOUR SCORE. bh said this already. forget this strategy. hope your QB does well and try to win position by position. I mean... come on! the point of this exercise is to score AS MANY POINTS AS YOU CAN. this doesn't mean adjusting your roster to balance out the oponent.

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Postby saundman2000 » Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:37 pm

Ike,

What other receivers do you have besides CJ?

If he's your best option regardless, that makes the whole point moot.
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