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Postby ljthockey » Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:55 am

Yeah but even with your stats you said something like Vick is only up one point.

Even so Vick has one week on Carr to have better stats after this week it should compare just like it is.
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Postby matmat » Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:27 am

he he he

questions like this one remind me of the times I spent on hold with some company... "your call will be answered in the order it was received."

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carr.
bottom second tier
so a notch or two below rattay, brooks and brady.
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Carr is better than that

Postby DraftDodger » Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:11 pm

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carr.
bottom second tier
so a notch or two below rattay, brooks and brady.
<<<

matmat ... do you even know what we're talking about?

Houston has the 7th ranked passing offense in the NFL---who do you think has been throwing the ball?

Even looking at pure fantasy stats, Carr is low first tier or at the very top of the second tier QBs.

He doesn't throw many picks and will eventually get the impressive TDs to go along with the yardage. Quite simply, he's one of the best emerging QBs in the NFL, and somewhere between the second half of this season and the beginning of next season, we should really see him shine.

One problem fantasy wise is that we rarely seen Carr in junk time where QBs get a lot of their great numbers. The Texans use their running game to keep contests close. Look for big numbers out of Carr in the upcoming (week after next and the following week) games against Indy, Green Bay, and Tennessee. This week he's not a very exciting start against Denver, but he'll be a stud the following weeks.

Let's see how you rank Carr again in four weeks

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Postby goleafsgo96 » Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:47 pm

ljthockey wrote:Yeah but even with your stats you said something like Vick is only up one point.

Even so Vick has one week on Carr to have better stats after this week it should compare just like it is.


keep im mi d vick has played very poorly this season. He should rebound and when he does he is fantasy money. Carr has tons of potential, but i dont think he'll play much better than he has been for this year. id take vick over carr easily.

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Postby ljthockey » Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:05 pm

goleafsgo96 wrote:
ljthockey wrote:Yeah but even with your stats you said something like Vick is only up one point.

Even so Vick has one week on Carr to have better stats after this week it should compare just like it is.


keep im mi d vick has played very poorly this season. He should rebound and when he does he is fantasy money. Carr has tons of potential, but i dont think he'll play much better than he has been for this year. id take vick over carr easily.

Manning
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Favre
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Lefty, Carr, Brady, Big Ben? Hes in there for me


Now Vick and Carr I thought were close but so far this year Vicks stats come no were near Bulgers maybe your rating on what you think will happen in the second half of the year?

Bulger 1985 pass yards 7tds 47 rush yards 3 tds 96 fantasy point
Vick 1390 pass yards 6tds 463 rush yards 1td. 65 fantasy points

The only stat Vick is winning in there is rushing yards and like I said Vick had one extra week. Unless your ranking on what you think will happen I cant see how you think Vick is ranked higher so far this year.
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Re: Carr is better than that

Postby matmat » Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:46 pm

DraftDodger wrote:matmat ... do you even know what we're talking about?

Houston has the 7th ranked passing offense in the NFL---who do you think has been throwing the ball?


oh, I am sorry. I was looking at his fantasy stats for the season. standard yahoo scoring:
P. Manning (Ind - QB) 164
D. Culpepper (Min - QB) 156
D. McNabb (Phi - QB) 125
D. Brees (SD - QB) 110
J. Plummer (Den - QB) 108
B. Favre (GB - QB) 105
M. Bulger (StL - QB) 96
B. Leftwich (Jac - QB) 95
T. BradyP (NE - QB) 87
A. Brooks (NO - QB) 84
J. Harrington (Det - QB) 84
D. CarrP (Hou - QB) 81


or how about 25yds/point, -2 turnover, 4 passing TD, 6 rushing TD?
D. Culpepper (Min - QB) 160
P. Manning (Ind - QB) 156.24
D. McNabb (Phi - QB) 138.48
D. Brees (SD - QB) 111.18
B. Leftwich (Jac - QB) 103.34
M. Bulger (StL - QB) 103.1
A. Brooks (NO - QB) 102.58
J. Plummer (Den - QB) 101.62
D. CarrP (Hou - QB) 99.18
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Postby THE RAGE » Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:51 pm

Man, I tried to nab Carr this year. Pennington has been less than expected and I needed a consistent QB. IF you have anyone other than...
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Postby goleafsgo96 » Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:07 pm

I assumed we were ranking form here on out. anyone can rank how theyve done this year and the rankings would all be the same...
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Postby blb2397 » Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:32 pm

Thanks for the input
I was looking for a ranking based on value.
I traded Plaxico for Carr & Kevin Jones.
I figured after the first 4 or so he was as good as any.
The guy I traded with likes Plummer better based on current points, but him along with many others seem to forget about bye weeks
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Also our league is not standard scoring - we double yardage values
10 yards vs 20 yards in run/catch
25 yards vs 50 yards in pass

Our league rankings w / points & games

D. Culpepper (Min - QB)
210 - 7 games
P. Manning (Ind - QB)
207 - 7
D. McNabb (Phi - QB)
170 - 7
J. Plummer (Den - QB)
154 - 8
D. Brees (SD - QB)
146 - 8
B. Favre (GB - QB)
145 - 8
M. Bulger (StL - QB)
138 - 7
B. Leftwich (Jac - QB)
135 - 8
D. CarrP (Hou - QB)
128 - 7
A. Brooks (NO - QB)
123 - 7
T. BradyP (NE - QB)
121 - 7
V. Testaverde (Dal - QB)
116 - 7
M. Vick (Atl - QB)
115 - 8
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Postby Crafty » Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:50 pm

Another couple of points to consider.

1. The defense. Houston's defense is pretty bad, so they have to do a lot of catching up, and that means passing late in games and better stats.

2. The running game. Houston's running game is all about D. Davis when he's healthy, and Davis' yards are usually split between the run and pass pretty evenly. Instead of losing yards in the ball-control situation, Carr keeps getting yards.

So I like his prospects.
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