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Postby Navyseal » Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:55 am

I still believe Brady has better #'s by season's end primarily b/c of the old arguments:

1. More weapons (no longer an argument)
2. Brady's just a better QB...
3. NE calls better plays (no doubt about it)
4. Brady's defense creates more chances...
5. Brady plays for a better team...

SO... why is Brooks a better fantasy QB again... ?
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Postby UNDEFEATED » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:02 am

Stationed in San Diego, Navyseal?

I remeber the original thread and it was a good one. Well played on both sides.

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Postby goleafsgo96 » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:16 am

Brady has 11 more points than Brooks, thats an average of 1.1 over the 10 games theyve played so far. We had a huge argument on it where all the points were brought up, theres no reason to bring up every single point again, stick it out and watch the rest of the season, then we'll bring it up.
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Postby KingGhidra » Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:49 pm

goleafsgo96 wrote:Brady has 11 more points than Brooks, thats an average of 1.1 over the 10 games theyve played so far. We had a huge argument on it where all the points were brought up, theres no reason to bring up every single point again, stick it out and watch the rest of the season, then we'll bring it up.


Or how about we don't bring up any x vs z threads that were debated to death in the preseason. The same arguments will be made. Some people are religious fanatics about ff. No one is gonna change their mind... and to be honest, no one should do a complete flip flop based on one season's worth of work.

Oh... in the MIKL (25/4 fractional scoring), Brooks is 3.46 FP ahead of Brady... So what was the point of bring this thread up declaring Brady better again?

And to go over your list of points.

1) Brooks has better top end receiving weapons (Horn >> Givens, Deuce >> Dillon). As McNabb and Culpepper have shown, you only need ONE to be the best, not that there's anything wrong with several above average ones.

2) Prove one is just better than the other.

3) New England executes their plays better, that's for sure.

4) New Orleans defense creates more chances to pass a lot.

5) I'm not sure that's necessarily valid. Carolina has a much worse offense and Delhomme's scoring is right on par with Brady. Houston and Jacksonville's offense are worse than New England, but Carr and Leftwich are (and were) right on par with Brady. In fact, given that New England has probably a top 5 offense in 2004, Brady is middle of the pack as far as fantasy QBs go. One thing I'll give Brady is that his production has been very consistent. Then again, consistency doesn't really carry over year to year, so who knows if you get 2002 Brady or 2004 Brady in 2005.
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Postby matmat » Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:20 pm

who is the better QB depends on the scoring system. In the three leagues that I play in (with different scoring systems)
in one Brooks is up by about 6 points (141 to 135 on the year)
in another Brady is up by 5 points (151 to 146)
and in a standard yahoo league brady is up by 17 (147 to 130).
It all depends on the scoring, but of the three sample points I have the edge goes to brady, even though it is probably random noise anyway.
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Re: Brady vs Brooks revisited...

Postby BrutallyHuge » Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:03 pm

Navyseal wrote:I still believe Brady has better #'s by season's end primarily b/c of the old arguments:

1. More weapons (no longer an argument)
2. Brady's just a better QB...
3. NE calls better plays (no doubt about it)
4. Brady's defense creates more chances...
5. Brady plays for a better team...

SO... why is Brooks a better fantasy QB again... ?


Why would Brady's defense create more chances? Wouldn't it be the other way around? (i.e. NO's crappy defense makes the team get down...forcing them to throw....example: last week against Denver).
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Postby Navyseal » Sat Nov 27, 2004 4:04 am

Here's a prediction...

Brady finishes with 28>TDs, Brooks finishes with <20... passing, of course.
Brooks is screwed this year... if you don't believe me, just look at some of the decisions he's made lately... LOL.

Get a real coach for chrissake ! You're historical, Haslett.
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