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Postby CC » Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:33 pm

What does Palmer's ballot look like?
I actually think that most people I've listened to like Bush or Peterson, I just wonder how the voters will decide.
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Postby Free Bagel » Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:39 pm

Palmer's ballot:

1. Matt Leinhart
2. Reggie Bush
3. Dwayne Jarrett
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Postby goleafsgo96 » Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:14 pm

Free Bagel wrote:Palmer's ballot:

1. Matt Leinhart
2. Reggie Bush
3. Dwayne Jarrett


you gotta be kidding me! Does he know that the heisman is a entire NCAA, not just a USC award.
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Postby Manja » Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:56 pm

And there it is.. Matt Leinart.
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Postby MeShawn » Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:09 pm

ESPN seems to think that Leinhart was a lock after his 4-5 TD performance (I can't remember what it was)
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Postby CC » Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:12 pm

A lock? The poll by ESPN writers had Leinart with a 46-44 win over Peterson. I think Leinart is a good choice, I would have rather seen Peterson win, but Leinart would have been 2nd on my ballot.
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Postby Demented Avenger » Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:19 am

Adrian Peterson: 5.9 ypc
Cedric Benson: 5.8 ypc
Reggie Bush: 6.1 ypc
JJ Arrington: 7.0 ypc (led NCAA, min. 100 att.)

JJ Arrington: led NCAA in rushing yards.
JJ Arrington: only back to rush for 100 yards in every game he started


While I don't think Arrington should have won, he got way too little consideration for the numbers he put up this year.
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Postby Tim_ffc » Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:47 pm

I'm still a fan of Reggie Bush. As an all around player, I don't think anyone's better.

No one had the ability to turn a game around and score at any time like Bush did. Hell, the opposing kickers and punters made sure not to punk/kickoff to him more than 50% of the time. Plus, the defenses targeted him in particular, taking the pass to Jarrett over having Bush take the ball. To make some of those plays he did under all these obstacles showed me that deserved to win the award, and most certainly not come in last.

I can't disagree with choosing Leinart, though. The guy's done a great job with his young receivers.
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Postby Free Bagel » Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:09 pm

Tim wrote:I'm still a fan of Reggie Bush. As an all around player, I don't think anyone's better.

No one had the ability to turn a game around and score at any time like Bush did. Hell, the opposing kickers and punters made sure not to punk/kickoff to him more than 50% of the time. Plus, the defenses targeted him in particular, taking the pass to Jarrett over having Bush take the ball. To make some of those plays he did under all these obstacles showed me that deserved to win the award, and most certainly not come in last.

I can't disagree with choosing Leinart, though. The guy's done a great job with his young receivers.


The Heisman trophy goes to the best college player. To draw in an NFL comparison, much of what you described above can be said about Dante Hall, but that in no way makes him the best player in the NFL.

Reggie Bush does not own sole possession of a single major stat category on HIS OWN TEAM. Not touchdowns, not rushing yards, not receiving yards. It's hard to make a case for a guy who doesn't even trot out during the introduction of starting lineups before a game because he's not even a starter on his team.
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Postby CC » Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:52 pm

Demented Avenger wrote:Adrian Peterson: 5.9 ypc
Cedric Benson: 5.8 ypc
Reggie Bush: 6.1 ypc
JJ Arrington: 7.0 ypc (led NCAA, min. 100 att.)

JJ Arrington: led NCAA in rushing yards.
JJ Arrington: only back to rush for 100 yards in every game he started


While I don't think Arrington should have won, he got way too little consideration for the numbers he put up this year.


Agreed, my choice for the Hesiman candidates were Benson, Arrington, Peterson, Leinart and White. Bush is supremely talented and a great player, but he just didn't have the numbers to be considered IMO.
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