I can't add much to that last post. While he was in KC, he caught alot of ball in the corner or short flat route to the sidelines. He did well jumping and holding onto the ball when he hit the ground. But not well if he got hit right after catching the ball. He wasn't able to pick up ball low toward the turf or behind him some. I agree, he could be a okay back up TE on a fantasy team. Enless Joey is looking for him when he gets into trouble I wouldn't make him my 2nd TE.