moochman wrote:This is one reason why they should be tipped more, expectations.
Maybe I was misunderstood a little. What I was trying to say is that I have the same expectations for all servers. I do not hold servers to the standards that Mookie was saying. I don't expect you to tell me what to eat or what to drink, and I could care less if you make my salad in the kitchen or at my table.
moochman wrote:Do you have a problem with the food or drinks at Hooters? No, wings and a pitcher are pretty hard to screw up. And even the guy wiping his nose on his sleave will be able to help you with the Hooters' menu. Their job is easier by the narrowed expectations.
In case you've never been there, wings at Hooters come in mild, medium, hot, TMI, or 911. This is almost as easy to screw up as rare, medium rare, medium, medium well, or well. Let's remember that the server simply takes your order, they don't make the food so it is just as easy to write down the wrong thing at Hooters as it is at a steak house.
And if you are going to say that any guy wiping his nose on his sleeve could understand the menu at Hooters then you could also say any snob wearing a Tuxedo can understand what Filet-Mignon or Prime Rib with a side of steamed vegetables is. I think to keep the original argument first and foremost (whether the tip you leave should be directly related to the amount of the bill) it is best to leave stereotypes out.
moochman wrote:The server at a high-end restaurant will help you with your selection and correct any problems that you might have with your dining experience. This would include returning any dish that you found undesirable.
Are you saying that if you order a burger from Hooters well done and the burger they bring you is almost raw they are going to say oh well, better luck next time. Every server is supposed to return any dish that you find undesirable. It is their job. Also, as I said earlier, the server is not the cook, so they should lose no tip money for bringing a under/over cooked meal. It's what they do about it that affects their tip.
moochman wrote:And if you follow the 15% rule, you are unknowingly being cheap, the rule was increased to 20% a long time ago.
Actually, what I was saying is that I leave 15% even if I had an absolutely horrible experience. I think this is more fair than others who stiff people because you never know what is going on in the server's life at that point. Everyone has a bad day.
By no means am I saying don't tip or anything like that. I am simply saying that their are other factors involved that should be included other than just the price of the check.
Attitude, speed, respect of the server should be thought about as well as size of the party, amount of work done, and respectfulness of your party. The percentage rules are supposed to be guidelines, not absolute law!