Reflect on 2004. Project for 2005.

[Goatwhacker]

kev - I used 1000 career receiving yards as the cutoff, there would be plenty of ND receivers besides Snow and Gatewood in that category, including Tim Brown. Jack Snow was a pretty good receiver in the pros, by the way.

Your point is well taken, maybe I am being too hard on Michigan. Unfortunately though I'm old enough to remember all the hype about Desmond Howard and Anthony Carter when they came out, then you know how I feel about Terrell. Then you look at Toomer with his zero touchdowns last year and Tai Streets with not much of anything last year.

So for whatever reason, whether it's their system or coaching or bad luck or what, Michigan receivers tend to underachieve, and I'm not just talking about Terrell. I certainly could be all wet and Edwards will be the next Jerry Rice, if the bears pick him I hope he is.

[The Miner Part 2]

kev - I used 1000 career receiving yards as the cutoff, there would be plenty of ND receivers besides Snow and Gatewood in that category, including Tim Brown. Jack Snow was a pretty good receiver in the pros, by the way.

Your point is well taken, maybe I am being too hard on Michigan. Unfortunately though I'm old enough to remember all the hype about Desmond Howard and Anthony Carter when they came out, then you know how I feel about Terrell. Then you look at Toomer with his zero touchdowns last year and Tai Streets with not much of anything last year.

So for whatever reason, whether it's their system or coaching or bad luck or what, Michigan receivers tend to underachieve, and I'm not just talking about Terrell. I certainly could be all wet and Edwards will be the next Jerry Rice, if the bears pick him I hope he is.

im confused, you talk like youre a bears fan but you have the packers avatar? did you lose a bet or what?

[Goatwhacker]

im confused, you talk like youre a bears fan but you have the packers avatar? did you lose a bet or what?

Miner, I honestly am a fan of both. I lived in Milwaukee for 12 years and got to be a Packers fan, then moved to eastern Iowa where the Bears are on TV all the time. I probably follow the Bears more closely than the pack these days since I listen to Chicago sports radio a lot. I do like the Packers logos better though.

[kevinoc81]

Unfortunately though I'm old enough to remember all the hype about Desmond Howard and Anthony Carter when they came out, then you know how I feel about Terrell.

I understand, but there are hyped players from all schools. Some pan out and some don't. I bet, if there was a way to check, at every school, there are more bust prospects than successful prospects.

Then you look at Toomer with his zero touchdowns last year and Tai Streets with not much of anything last year.

Toomer played with Warner and Manning in a Tiki-heavy system. He has had his share of decent years. Tai Streets played with Harrington and was the #3 I believe behind Williams and Hakim. I don't mean to make excuses, but c'mon.

Really it doesn't matter, but I would just like my football team to have a better reason for passing on a "potential" stud than he went to Michigan.