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Postby mtryanks12 » Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:33 pm

VOTING FOR AP ALL-PRO TEAM


OFFENSE

Quarterback: Peyton Manning, Indianapolis, 48.

x-Running Backs: Curtis Martin, NY Jets, 26; LaDainian Tomlinson, San Diego, 20; Edgerrin James, Indianapolis, 18; Shaun Alexander, Seattle, 15; Tiki Barber, NY Giants, 9; Corey Dillon, New England, 6; Jerome Bettis, Pittsburgh, 1.

Fullback: William Henderson, Green Bay, 16; Tony Richardson, Kansas City, 15; Lorenzo Neal, San Diego, 5; Damian Shelton, Buffalo, 4; Mack Strong, Seattle, 3; Jerald Sowell, NY Jets, 3; Dan Kreider, Pittsburgh, 2.

Tight End:

Antonio Gates, San Diego, 32 1/2 ; Tony Gonzalez, Kansas City, 14; Alge Crumpler, Atlanta, 1 1/2 .

Wide Receivers: Terrell Owens, Philadelphia, 41; Muhsin Muhammad, Carolina, 25; Marvin Harrison, Indianapolis, 18; Hines Ward, Pittsburgh, 5; Javon Walker, Green Bay, 2; Chad Johnson, Cincinnati, 2; Joe Horn, New Orleans, 2; Torry Holt, St. Louis, 1.

Tackles: Walter Jones, Seattle, 34; Willie Anderson, Cincinnati, and William Roaf, Kansas City, 16; Jonathan Ogden, Baltimore, 8; Orlando Pace, St. Louis, 7; Chad Clifton, Green Bay, 4; Tarik Glenn, Indianapolis, 4; Tra Thomas, Philadelphia, 3; Marvel Smith, Pittsburgh, 2; Jason Fabini, NY Jets, 1; Jordan Gross, Carolina, 1.

Guards: Alan Faneca, Pittsburgh, 36; Brian Waters, Kansas City, 17; Will Shields, Kansas City, 16; Steve Hutchinson, Seattle, 11; Marco Rivera, Green Bay, 6; Larry Allen, Dallas, 4; Mike Wahle, Green Bay, 2; Pete Kendall, NY Jets, 2; Kynan Forney, Atlanta, 1; Travelle Wharton, Carolina, 1.

Center: Jeff Hartings, Pittsburgh, 18; Kevin Mawae, NY Jets, 17; Jeff Saturday, Indianapolis, 6; Matt Birk, Minnesota, 3; Casey Wiegmann, Kansas City, 1; Olin Kreutz, Chicago, 1; LeCharles Bentley, New Orleans, 1; Tom Nalen, Denver, 1.

Place-kicker: Adam Vinatieri, New England, 41; David Akers, Philadelphia, 7.

Kick Returner: Eddie Drummond, Detroit, 22 1/2 ; Terrence McGee, Buffalo, 22; Dante Hall, Kansas City, 3; Allen Rossum, Atlanta, 1/2 .

DEFENSE

Ends: Dwight Freeney, Indianapolis, 44; Julius Peppers, Carolina, 36; Bertrand Berry, Arizona, 7; Patrick Kerney, Atlanta, 4; Jevon Kearse, Philadelphia, 3; Richard Seymour, New England, 1; Aaron Smith, Pittsburgh, 1.

Tackles: Kevin Williams, Minnesota, 22; Richard Seymour, New England, 21; Jamal Williams, San Diego, 12; Shaun Rogers, Detroit, 11; Sam Adams, Buffalo, 9; Marcus Stroud, Jacksonville, 8; Rod Coleman, Atlanta, 5; Cornelius Griffin, Washington, 4; John Henderson, Jacksonville, 2; La'Roi Glover, Dallas, 1; Patrick Kerney, Atlanta, 1.

Outside Linebackers: Takeo Spikes, Buffalo, 32; Derrick Brooks, Tampa Bay, 17; Keith Brooking, Atlanta, 13; Joey Porter, Pittsburgh 12; Donnie Edwards, San Diego, 8; Marcus Washington, Washington, 6; Terrell Suggs, Baltimore, 3; Steve Foley, San Diego, 2; Keith Bulluck, Tennessee, 1; Mike Vrabel, New England, 1; Willie McGinest, New England, 1.

y-Inside Linebacker: James Farrior, Pittsburgh, 44; Ray Lewis, Baltimore, 18; Donnie Edwards, San Diego, 12; Tedy Bruschi, New England, 12; Dan Morgan, Carolina, 4; Jeremiah Trotter, Philadelphia, 2; Antonio Pierce, Washington, 2; Zach Thomas, Miami, 1.

Cornerbacks: Ronde Barber, Tampa Bay, 17; Champ Bailey, Denver, and Lito Sheppard, Philadelphia, 15; Chris McAlister, Baltimore, 12; Shawn Springs, Washington, 10; Torry James, Cincinnati, 8; Nate Clements, Buffalo, 6; Dunta Robinson, Houston, 3; Dre' Bly, Detroit, 2; Gary Baxter, Baltimore, 1; Patrick Surtain, Miami, 1; Marcus Trufant, Seattle, 1; Andre Dyson, Tennessee, 1; Sam Madison, Miami, 1; Deshea Townsend, Pittsburgh, 1; Fred Smoot, Washington, 1; Antonio Winfield, Minnesota, 1.

Safeties: Ed Reed, Baltimore, 47; Brian Dawkins, Philadelphia, 24; Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh, 13; Rodney Harrison, New England, 6; John Lynch, Denver, 2; Roy Williams, Dallas, 2; Michael Lewis, Philadelphia, 1; Donovin Darius, Jacksonville, 1.

Punter: Shane Lechler, Oakland, 21; Brad Maynard, Chicago, 9; Mike Scifres, San Diego, 8; Mitch Berger, New Orleans, 5; Brian Moorman, Buffalo, 2; Todd Sauerbrun, Carolina, 1 1/2 ; Craig Hentrich, Tennessee, 1.

x-one voter selected only one running back.

y-one voter selected only one insider linebacker.


Woah. Manning got all the votes. I'm not surprised, though.
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Postby PackerAttack84 » Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:00 pm

I could've seen Daunte getting 2 or 3 votes. Why did Javon Walker only get 2 votes???? It's about time that William Henderson gets some attention from the press about what a good job he does. Nice to see that Ray Lewis didn't the #1 MLB, he's a little overated.
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Postby mtryanks12 » Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:32 pm

PackerAttack84 wrote:I could've seen Daunte getting 2 or 3 votes. Why did Javon Walker only get 2 votes???? It's about time that William Henderson gets some attention from the press about what a good job he does. Nice to see that Ray Lewis didn't the #1 MLB, he's a little overated.


PArt of it is the Madden curse. Javon Walker deserved a lot more votes than he did. I agree.
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Postby mtryanks12 » Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:35 pm

Compare that to this:

Fanball's All-Fantasy team
Quarterback
Peyton Manning, Colts - Something about an NFL record number of touchdown passes cements Peyton's place on this squad. Oh, and it didn't hurt that Manning threw for better than 4,000 yards—a career-best 4,557, in fact—for the sixth consecutive season.

Lesser known is the fact that Peyton and his brother Eli set a new record for touchdown passes by brothers in a single season, as their 55 shattered the old mark of 48 held by Dan and Don Marino.

Manning's monster year overshadowed a stellar campaign by the Vikings' Daunte Culpepper, who made this a closer race than you might think. Daunte's pair of rushing touchdowns and 406 rushing yards, along with a league-high 4,717 passing yards, earned him a spot on the secont team.

The Eagles' Donovan McNabb also had a strong season, though his numbers positively paled in comparison to those of Manning and Culpepper. His playing one series through the final two weeks of the season didn't help his case, either.


Running Back
Shaun Alexander, Seahawks: There's really no better way to state your case for a major pay hike than by posting the best season by anyone at your position, and that's exactly what Alexander did in 2004.

Shaun may be upset at losing out on the rushing title, but he'll have millions (and million$) of reasons not to sweat it in the coming months. Fantasy owners will show him plenty of respect as well, following his fourth straight season of 16 or more touchdowns and a career-best 1,696 rushing yards.

LaDainian Tomlinson, Chargers: The battle for the second back slot on this squad was as heated as any other race. Tomlinson clocks in as the winner despite his week 17 absence because he put a touchdown on the table every single week from week four on. Like Fred Flintstone punching the time clock, L.T. found the end zone week after week after week. His yardage tailed off a bit, but we'll gladly trade that small wrinkle for the career-high 18 touchdowns and the comfort of knowing that every week L.T. would put points on the board.

Tomlinson's competition came from the Giants' Tiki Barber, who may have put up the quietest 15-touchdown, 2,096-combo yard season on record. Sneaky Tiki's touchdown production suffered with Eli Manning's on-the-job training, but 14 times Barber managed at least 100 yards rushing or receiving (not combo, a flat-out century-mark milestone) or score at least one touchdown.

Several other backs put up credible numbers that warrant at least a mention here, including the comeback campaign of the Jets' Curtis Martin (1,697 rushing yards, 14 touchdowns), the Texans' Domanick Davis (1,776 combo yards and 14 scores), and the Patriots' Corey Dillon (1,635 rushing yards, 13 touchdowns).

And special mention goes to the Chiefs' Priest Holmes, who was on pace for 2,158 yards from scrimmage and 30 touchdowns before injuries cost him half the season. Yes, you read those numbers correctly: in eight games, Priest had 15 touchdowns and 1,079 combo yards. And his backups didn't fare too poorly, either.


Wide Receiver
Muhsin Muhammad, Panthers: Say what? Muhammy? The oft-injured, much-maligned pass catcher who wasn't even supposed to be the best receiver on his own team, let alone in all of fantasy football?

Oh, it's twue, it's twue. Thanks in no small part to injuries to the Panthers' No. 1 receiver, Steve Smith, and the first four running backs on the depth chart, Muhammad ingrained himself into Jake Delhomme's consciousness. With just two touchdowns and one 100-yard game through the first seven weeks of the season, Muhammad was probably in your free agent pool when he launched his second-half assault.

Over the final 10 weeks of the season, Muhammy failed to score only twice while tallying multiple touchdowns five times en route to 14 six-pointers. He also topped the century mark six times and hit 94 or better thrice more.

It should surprise you not that Muhammad is about to become a very rich man this offseason, thanks in no small part to his 2004 salary push. The Panthers hold an option for the coming season at his current cap figure of $12.5 million, and he's also due a $10 million roster bonus in March. Yes, despite the fact that he's had the best year of his career, the Panthers or some other squad are virtually assured of overpaying for his services. Hope you enjoyed the ride.

Terrell Owens, Eagles: As tough as the Tomlinson/Barber call was, this one was even more difficult.

On the one hand is Owens, who kicked off the season with a three-touchdown salute and ran roughshod over the entire league, rolling up 1,200 yards and 14 touchdowns before an ankle injure brought his first year in Philly to a premature end—the result being that you got nothing from your premier producer in the fantasy playoffs.

On the other hand is the Colts' Marvin Harrison, who had what was for him another down year, with only 86 catches and 1,113 yards (yes, when you've had 143 grabs and 1,722 yards, that's a down year). Nonetheless, Marvelous was the prime beneficiary of Peyton Manning's march to Marino's record, totaling 15 touchdowns and scoring in six of the final seven games of the season.

In the end, we gave the nod to Owens, in part because he was more productive per game and would have easily outdistanced Marv had he stayed healthy, and in part because he stopped short of the 15 touchdowns which would have forced us to witness Andy Reid in Spandex.

Also clocking in for honorable mention are the Packers' Javon Walker, who finally gave Brett Favre a target of note and finished with 1,380 yards and 12 scores; the Saints' Joe Horn, who answered those critics who called him streaky by scoring or topping 100 yards (or both) 12 times in 2004; the Vikings' Randy Moss, who scored 13 touchdowns in 13 games; the Colts' "other" receivers, Reggie Wayne and Brandon Stokley, who teamed with Harrison to provide the NFL's first every trio of 1,000-yard, 10-touchdown receivers; and the Titans' Drew Bennett, whose numbers with Billy Volek at the helm all season would have projected to an astronomical 1,942 yards and 22 touchdowns.

Tight End
Antonio Gates, Chargers: You could pretend there was a jump ball for the tight end crown between former hoopsters Gates and the Chiefs' Tony Gonzalez… but you'd be wrong.

Gates won this one running away, unless you play in some bizarre scoring system where touchdowns mean nothing. His 13 touchdowns were an NFL record for tight ends and, in a season where tight ends were scoring as often as R. Kelly at a junior high dance, nearly doubled his closest competition—including Gonzo, who was one of three tight ends with seven scores. And while Antonio's yardage trailed Gonzo by almost 300 yards, it was still good for third-best at his position despite sitting out the final game of the season.

Gates and Gonzo were head and shoulders above the field, rendering even solid seasons from the likes of the Cowboys' Jason Witten (980 yards, six scores), the Falcons' Alge Crumpler (774 and six in 14 games), and even the Giants' Jeremy Shockey (an errie 666 and six) almost invisible.

Kicker
Adam Vinatieri, Patriots: The best clutch kicker in the business, at least when he's not wearing red leather pants or trying to kick a ball from the roof of one parking garage to Donald Trump standing on another (and no, we're never going to let him forget that) stepped it up a notch with a career year across the board. Vinny tied or set personal marks in field goals, field goal percentage, PATs, and total points, making his inclusion here a no-brainer.

The only caveat is that the NFL's scoring champion never repeats, so don't put Vinny atop your draft board next season. Instead, slot runner-up Jason Elam as your top kicker.


Defense
Baltimore Ravens: While the Ravens may seem like an obvious choice, depending on your scoring system they're anything but. Led by Ed Reed, the Ravens took five interceptions and two fumble recoveries to the house, topping the defensive touchdown charts. They also mixed in a pair of punt return touchdowns for those who include special teams scores in their defensive mix, all of which is certainly enough to warrant their selection to this squad.

But the Buffalo Bills had four interception return touchdowns, two punt return scores, three kickoff return scores, and mixed in a blocked kick returned for a touchdown to boot. They also generated 39 takeaways (to the Ravens' 34), recorded 46 sacks (to the Ravens' 39) and notched a safety as well.

Another unheralded challenger to the Ravens' throne is the Chicago Bears' defensive unit. They recorded a league-high three safeties and had seven touchdown returns (five interceptions, one fumble, one punt).
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Postby CC » Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:37 pm

Farrior owned Edwards and Lewis I can't believe I actually had to argue with a few people about his being the best MLB in the NFL this year.
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Postby portisfan24 » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:10 pm

PackerAttack84 wrote:I could've seen Daunte getting 2 or 3 votes. Why did Javon Walker only get 2 votes???? It's about time that William Henderson gets some attention from the press about what a good job he does. Nice to see that Ray Lewis didn't the #1 MLB, he's a little overated.


Ya I dont know how Hines got more vottes than Javon.
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Postby biju » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:56 pm

Here's what I find most interesting on this list: the offensive line. If you take a close look at this group you can see why some of these RBs are having success. There were 17 of 32 teams who had members in these groups (Tackle, Guard, Center) but only 7 teams who had multiple members.

- Kansas City had 4 linemen who helped 3 backs get extremely good numbers. Who knows how many yards Holmes would have gotten if he had stayed healthy.
- Pittsburgh (who juggled two backs this year) had 3
- The Jets (who's Martin had an amazing comeback year) had 3 as well.
- Green Bay had 3 too, although Ahman had what some may consider an "off" year
- Seattle had two (and I should note that I know they both are on the left side; I don't know about the others though) to create tons of room for Shaun.
- Indianapolis who gave Edge room, but more importantly kept people out of Manning's face, had 2.
- Carolina had two also who saw 5 different RBs over the course of the year.

The most notable teams missing here are San Diego and New England, who's RBs had stellar years despite having nobody selected.

I'm extremely interested in tracking the movement (if any) of these guys. As a matter of fact, I'd be interested in seeing if there is any kind of trend year over year based on line movement.
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Postby mtryanks12 » Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:20 pm

Canadian_Cheesehead wrote:Farrior owned Edwards and Lewis I can't believe I actually had to argue with a few people about his being the best MLB in the NFL this year.


I think Donnie Edwards should have won the linebacker category. Not only did he help SD defense a ton, but he was the 3rd highest IDP scorer in normal yahoo scoring.
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