Say what you want about Big Ben

[ljthockey]

Thats a horrible trade, Ogden is the best OL in the game.

Give me Will Shields............No Odgen is definatly a top 3 OL

I actually got into a huge argument on this at school today these kids are retarded "blah blah Ben sucks see him play" It was seriously like a 5 on 1 argument..I was like for god sakes hes a rookie quarterback leading a 15-1 season.

Regardless mad props to Big Ben

[warrick95]

Ogden>Shields because finding a good OT with fast enough feet and hands to play that position is harder than finding a good interior lineman.

Ben definitely had a superb year. Remember that NE is one of the smartest and best defenses in the league...thus, Roethlisberger was understandably confused by them. They also got down very early...which is something he wasn't very used to. The defense definitely carried this team and they failed early, leading to a loss and exit.

[joshyboy72]

Congrats to Big Ben on a great season. Although they won most of those games rushing the football so successful Ben showed great poise and confidence in many tough game situations, and came back from a horrible start against the Pats yesterday. Along with that running game of theirs and that great defense I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers are still playing at this time next year, maybe even into February, if you catch my drift. Hopefully the Bus doesn't retire though.

[ljthockey]

What I was arguing early today the reason I think Big Ben makes the stealers so much better is not his superb quarterback play cause thats not there. Its the presence of the team knowing they have to work that much harder to make up for the young rook. I think Big Bens role might be more of a motivational factor than a above average qb.

[Fantasy-Sports-Forum]

The subject of this thread is say what you want about Big Ben, so here it goes:

CCCHHHHOOOKKKKKKEEEEE!!!!!!!!

[steelyeri]

He showed great promise this year. He surpassed everyones expectations. He was mature in a way that is rare in a rookie. He has great skill and poise. He will definately become one of the leagues best passers. Steeler fans can take pride in knowing that at least he played better than manning against the patriots, even beating them in his first attempt and that says a lot.

[ljthockey]

You have to be expected to play good to Choooke

It was predicted that New England would dominate him and that they did ...... I dont see that as a choke

[The Lung]

Something I think to remember is that Big Ben was an excellent quarterback in real life this year. But unless you played in a 16-team league, started two quarterbacks, drafted really poorly (Brad Johnson, Jeff Garcia, Kurt Warner, etc.) or your quarterback suffered a season-ending injury (McNair, Grossman) it's unlikely that anyone used Big Ben for fantasy purposes, or at least successfully so. And in the Steeler system, that is unlikely to change; I just don't see them ever reverting back to the Maddox 2002 'gunslinger' offense.

[MCG321]

Something I think to remember is that Big Ben was an excellent quarterback in real life this year. But unless you played in a 16-team league, started two quarterbacks, drafted really poorly (Brad Johnson, Jeff Garcia, Kurt Warner, etc.) or your quarterback suffered a season-ending injury (McNair, Grossman) it's unlikely that anyone used Big Ben for fantasy purposes, or at least successfully so. And in the Steeler system, that is unlikely to change; I just don't see them ever reverting back to the Maddox 2002 'gunslinger' offense.

Well, the Bus might be gone, and Duce isn't too young, so they'd better get a good RB to fill their shoes, or else a pass-oriented offense with Pitt's talented WRs looks like a better option.

[The Lung]

I have a lot of faith in the Steelers 3rd and 4th string running backs, Verron Haynes and Willie Parker - they are no slouches.