JB to GB - Fantasy Football Cafe 2014 Fantasy Football Cafe


Return to Football Talk

JB to GB

Moderator: Football Moderators

JB to GB

Postby PackerAttack84 » Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:51 pm

The Green Bay Packers have named Jim Bates defensive coordinator. Mike Sherman, Executive Vice President and Head Coach, announced the move Monday.

Bob Slowik, the team's defensive coordinator in 2004, has an opportunity to return to the Packers coaching staff under Bates' leadership, Sherman said, but a final determination has yet to be made.

Bates, who will begin his duties Jan. 31, enters his 37th season in the coaching profession, his 15th in the NFL. The Dolphins' defensive coordinator the last five years (2000-04), he also went 3-4 as the club's interim head coach, including a 29-28 win over eventual AFC Champion New England, Dec. 20.

From 2000-04, only the Buccaneers (281.4 yards/game), Steelers (282.5), Ravens (286.4) and Bills (293.1) played better defensively than Miami (294.8). The Dolphins under Bates finished no worse than 10th in the NFL's overall rankings after each of his five seasons, including 2004, when they ranked eighth despite losing four starters to injured reserve. The team ranked sixth in 2000, fifth in 2001, third in 2002 and 10th in 2003.

Against the pass, the Dolphins entered the final week of the '04 season leading the league, but wound up second (162.0 yards/game). Miami's passing defense did pace the NFL in 2001, and ranked fifth in 2000, eighth in 2002 and 19th in 2003.

In five seasons, Bates' units produced 18 Pro Bowl selections (eight players). His squad did not allow a 100-yard rusher over a 20-game stretch that included the last four games of 2002 and the entire '03 campaign.

Prior to his time in Miami, Bates served as the Dallas Cowboys' linebackers coach (1996-97) and assistant head coach/defensive line (1998-99). Bill Belichick originally brought him to the NFL to coach the Browns' linebackers (1991) and defensive ends (1992-93). Then, after one year as Atlanta's defensive coordinator (1994), Bates returned to Cleveland as secondary coach (1995).

One of 13 individuals to serve as a head coach in both the NFL and United States Football League, Bates spent one year (1985) at the helm of the San Antonio Gunslingers. All told, he spent three years in the USFL, including two seasons as a defensive coordinator (Arizona Outlaws 1986, San Antonio 1984). Additionally, Bates coached another year at the pro level, as an assistant in 1988 for the Detroit Drive of the Arena League.

At the collegiate level, Bates has 15 years of coaching experience. A linebacker at the University of Tennessee (1964-67), he entered coaching with his alma mater as a graduate assistant in 1968, then made stops at Southern Mississippi (freshman coach 1972), Villanova (offensive line 1973, linebackers 1974), Kansas State (linebackers 1975-76), West Virginia (secondary 1977), Texas Tech (secondary 1978-79, defensive coordinator 1980-83), Tennessee (linebackers 1989) and Florida (defensive coordinator/secondary 1990) before coming to the NFL.

From 1969-71, he served as head coach at Sevier County (Tenn.) High School.

Bates' son James was a linebacker and defensive captain on Florida's 1996 national championship team. His other son, Jeremy, played at Rice and currently serves as assistant quarterbacks coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Slowik has 28 years of coaching experience, including 13 in the NFL, and eight as an NFL defensive coordinator. He originally joined the Packers as defensive backs coach, Feb. 10, 2000. The Packers promoted him to assistant head coach/defensive backs before the 2002 season, and to defensive coordinator before the '04 season.

Defensive backs coach Kurt Schottenheimer also will not return, Sherman announced. Schottenheimer, a veteran of 18 NFL seasons, joined the Packers Jan. 28, 2004, after spending the previous five years as an NFL defensive coordinator. Including 10 years as a college assistant, he has coached for 28 combined seasons.

Defensive line coach Jethro Franklin has left to accept a similar role at the University of Southern California, Sherman announced Jan. 17. The Trojans officially named Franklin to the post Thursday.


As a Packer fan this comes as great news to myself. I think Bates did a phenomenal job as the Dolphin's defensive coordinator and will hopefully turn a poor Green Bay defense around.[/quote]
Image
PackerAttack84
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar
Cafe WriterCafe RankerMock(ing) DrafterEagle EyeSweet 16 SurvivorCafe Blackjack Weekly Winner
Posts: 4532
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
Home Cafe: Football
Location: At a Friend's House

Packers grab Bates from 'Fins

Postby TTTBone » Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:52 pm

THE NEWS
The Packers issued a press release on Monday to confirm the hiring of Jim Bates as defensive coordinator. The former Dolphins' defensive coordinator is taking over a unit that ranked 23rd in the league in points allowed last season. Former defensive coordinator Bob Slowik has been offered a chance to return as a member of Bates' staff.


OUR VIEW

Bates was well respected by his peers and the players in Miami. The Packers have certainly upgraded at defensive coordinator, but it remains to be seen whether Bates can turn this unit around before next season. If nothing else, we do not expect the Packers to make as many draft day blunders on the defensive side of the ball if Bates has any say.


Great hiring I would venture to say. Donatell probably shouldn't have been fired last year, but I think bates is a huge upgrade over Slowik. ;-D
Image
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-Benjamin Franklin
TTTBone
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar
Cafe RankerPick 3 Weekly WinnerSweet 16 SurvivorCafe Blackjack Weekly WinnerLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 4481
(Past Year: 8)
Joined: 16 Oct 2003
Home Cafe: Football

Postby TTTBone » Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:06 pm

Doh! Looks like you beat me to the punch by one minute PA84.
Great signing.
Image
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-Benjamin Franklin
TTTBone
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar
Cafe RankerPick 3 Weekly WinnerSweet 16 SurvivorCafe Blackjack Weekly WinnerLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 4481
(Past Year: 8)
Joined: 16 Oct 2003
Home Cafe: Football

Postby PackerAttack84 » Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:10 pm

Yeah, I noticed that right after I posted it you had just posted yours. I made sure before I posted mine that nobody else had posted it, but since I was in the middle of posting mine you had just started, mine came out first.
Image
PackerAttack84
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar
Cafe WriterCafe RankerMock(ing) DrafterEagle EyeSweet 16 SurvivorCafe Blackjack Weekly Winner
Posts: 4532
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
Home Cafe: Football
Location: At a Friend's House

Postby OwenTheBlonde » Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:32 pm

Just what the Pack needed. Good move. Ignoring personnel, he should improve the D by a several spots by his coaching alone.
OwenTheBlonde
Offensive Coordinator
Offensive Coordinator

User avatar

Posts: 668
Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Home Cafe: Football
Location: Right behind you with a bucket of Gatorade

Postby CC » Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:42 pm

I really like the signing of Bates by the Packers. He was a very good coordinator for the Dolphins, and when he got a chance to be the head coach he got them very excited for the games even though their season was essentially over.

Plus, he is the only coach apart from Cowher to beat the Pats in 20 something games now, that has to count for something.
Image
I ain't no suit-wearin' businessman like you... you know I'm just a gangsta I suppose... - Avon Barksdale
CC
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
Fantasy ExpertCafe WriterCafe RankerMock(ing) DrafterEagle EyeSweet 16 SurvivorLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 11079
Joined: 30 Dec 2004
Home Cafe: Football
Location: The Big House.

Postby UNDEFEATED » Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:25 am

Anybody who thinks this is a bad hire is a moron. An incredible defensive coordinator is exactly what the Packers need. Beautiful pick-up for the pack.
Image Help me earn my Cafe Helper Blinking Ambulance stripes. If you want off the wall thorough answers to your team questions...Hit me up. PM me a link. See you around.
UNDEFEATED
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar
Mock(ing) Drafter
Posts: 3890
Joined: 26 Aug 2004
Home Cafe: Football
Location: Flos Scandelos

Postby GB Packer Fan 2004 » Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:02 pm

I am thrilled about this move ;-D ;-D

Our D is that bad and we really need help!

Great Signing ;-D
GB Packer Fan 2004
Head Coach
Head Coach

User avatar
Pick 3 Weekly WinnerSweet 16 Survivor
Posts: 1961
Joined: 29 Dec 2003
Home Cafe: Football
Location: New York City

Postby Carolina Culpepper » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:20 pm

Sorry to rain on your parade guys, but as someone who has watched his Vikings go thru defensive coordinators faster than a Russian opposition party candidate ages, I can tell you that the problems with the Packers defense, like the Vikings, is not the coordinator. Its the personnel on the field. Every year the Vikes bring in a new coordinator and every year we continue to stink. Finally this year at the very end of the year when we began to get Winfield healthy and some experience for our rookies did we finally go from horrible to just bad! As much as we dislike each other the Vikes and Pack are mirrors of each other - great offenses, poor defenses in need of some talent, not coaching.
Carolina Culpepper
Special Teams Staff
Special Teams Staff


Posts: 305
Joined: 12 Apr 2004
Home Cafe: Football
Location: Corey Chavous' Hometown

Postby OwenTheBlonde » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:26 pm

Carolina Culpepper wrote:Sorry to rain on your parade guys, but as someone who has watched his Vikings go thru defensive coordinators faster than a Russian opposition party candidate ages, I can tell you that the problems with the Packers defense, like the Vikings, is not the coordinator. Its the personnel on the field. Every year the Vikes bring in a new coordinator and every year we continue to stink. Finally this year at the very end of the year when we began to get Winfield healthy and some experience for our rookies did we finally go from horrible to just bad! As much as we dislike each other the Vikes and Pack are mirrors of each other - great offenses, poor defenses in need of some talent, not coaching.


While I'll agree with that in large part, the fact is that Bates is a great motivator who can get lesser talent to overachieve. But they definitely need a lot of upgrades talent-wise for sure to truly be a good or great D.
OwenTheBlonde
Offensive Coordinator
Offensive Coordinator

User avatar

Posts: 668
Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Home Cafe: Football
Location: Right behind you with a bucket of Gatorade

Next

Return to Football Talk

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests

Forums Articles & Tips Start & Sit Sleepers Rankings Leagues


Get Ready...
The 2014 NFL season kicks off in 7:38 hours
(and 43 days)
2014 NFL Schedule


  • Fantasy Football
  • Article Submissions
  • Privacy Statement
  • Site Survey 
  • Contact