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Postby CC » Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:59 pm

This what I have read in terms of this weeks practices to date.

Looking good:
Mark Clayton
Courtney Roby
Matt Roth
Anttaj Hawthorne
David Baas
Logan Mankins
Cadillac Williams
Reggie Brown
Fred Gibson
Matt Jones (as a WR)
Vincent Jackson (measured up very well)
Junior Rosegreen
Joel Dreessen
JJ Arrington
Mike Nugent
Charlie Frye

Looking bad:
Corey Webster
Alex Holmes
Ronald Bartell
Jason Brown
Jamaal Brimmer
Vincent Fuller
Craphonso Thorpe
Lorenzo Alexander

I'm sure I've missed a ton of people, but this is a basic look at the practices based on what I've read.
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Postby Gunslinger » Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:17 pm

Man, that sucks. Fuller was a huge part of our defense this year. Hopefully he can make a turn-around.
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Postby no1cowboysfan » Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:10 am

where do you get this coveted info, CC?
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Postby Dr. Duran Duran » Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:49 am

I manage a sports restaurant in California and the Senior Bowl practices are something we get on our sports satellite package. They're pretty boring for most to watch, but football geeks like myself find them pretty interesting. If any of you have a satellite dish, you might be able to get to see the practices live.
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Postby UtopianHopes » Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:48 pm

Dr. Duran Duran wrote:I manage a sports restaurant in California and the Senior Bowl practices are something we get on our sports satellite package. They're pretty boring for most to watch, but football geeks like myself find them pretty interesting. If any of you have a satellite dish, you might be able to get to see the practices live.


They were showing it on espn this week from around 3-4pm I believe.
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Postby DUKE » Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:47 pm

Here's some Senior Bowl player rankings thus far:
Grade: A

1. Darrent Williams, Oklahoma State
2. Fred Gibson, Georgia
3. Logan Mankins, Fresno State
4. Matt Roth, Iowa
5. Marcus Spears, LSU
6. Carnell Williams, Auburn
7. Sean Considine, Iowa
8. Bryant McFadden, Florida State
9. Jared Newberry, Stanford
10. Barrett Ruud, Nebraska
11. Mike Patterson, Southern Cal

Grade: B

12. Attiyyah Ellison, Missouri
13. Wesley Britt, Alabama
14. Chris Myers, Miami (Fla.)
15. Cody McCarty, TCU
16. Mark Clayton, Oklahoma
17. Reggie Brown, Georgia
18. Charlie Frye, QB, Akron
19. Carlos Rogers, Auburn
20. Jason Campbell, QB, Auburn
21. David Baas, Michigan
22. Mike Montgomery, Texas A&M
23. Joel Dreessen, Colorado State
24. Roddy White, Ala.-Birmingham
25. David Greene, QB, Georgia
26. Brandon Jones, Oklahoma
27. Dan Buenning, Wisconsin
28. Khalif Barnes, Washington
29. Michael Boley, Southern Miss
30. O.J. Otogwe, Stanford
31. Kay-Jay Harris, West Virginia
32. Vincent Jackson, No. Colorado
33. Evan Mathis, Alabama

Grade: C

34. Jason Brown, North Carolina
35. Ray Willis, Florida State
36. Jonathan Babineaux, Iowa
37. Anttaj Hawthorne, Wisconsin
38. Alphonso Hodge, Miami (Ohio)
39. Stanley Wilson, Stanford
40. James Butler, Georgia Tech
41. George Gause, South Carolina
42. Dan Orlovsky, QB, Connecticut
43. Junior Rosegreen, Auburn
44. Zach Tuiasosopo, Washington
45. Bill Swancutt, Oregon State
46. Lorenzo Alexander, California
47. J.J. Arrington, California
48. Shaun Cody, Southern Cal
49. Cedric Houston, Tennessee
50. Taylor Stubblefield, Purdue
51. Manuel White, UCLA
52. Alex Holmes, Southern Cal
53. Darren Sproles, Kansas State
54. Courtney Roby, Indiana
55. Trent Cole, Cincinnati
56. DeMarcus Ware, Troy
57. Marcus Lawrence, South Carolina
58. Corey Webster, LSU
59. Eric Green, Virginia Tech
60. Abraham Elimimian, Hawaii
61. Craphonso Thorpe, Florida State
62. Alex Smith, Stanford
63. Leroy Hill, Clemson

Grade: D

64. Lance Mitchell, Oklahoma
65. Ronald Fields, Mississippi State
66. Robert McCune, Louisville
67. Noah Herron, Northwestern
68. Nehemiah Broughton, The Citadel
69. Craig Bragg, UCLA
70. Roydell Williams, Tulane
71. Junius Coston, North Carolina A&T
72. Adam Snyder, Oregon
73. Anthony Bryant, Alabama
74. Cornelius Wortham, Alabama
75. Alfred Fincher, Connecticut
76. Kirk Morrison, San Diego St.
77. Jim Davis, Virginia Tech
78. Adam Terry, Syracuse
79. Michael Roos, Eastern Washington
80. Will Matthews, Texas
81. Marcus Johnson, Mississippi
82. Travis Daniels, LSU
83. Vincent Fuller, Virginia Tech
84. Jimmy Verdon, Arizona State
85. Jonathan Clinkscale, Wisconsin
86. Kyle Orton, QB, Purdue

Grade: F (looked undraftable)

87. Brock Berlin, Miami (Fla.)
88. Matt Jones, Arkansas
89. Jeremy Parquet, Southern Miss
90. David Stewart, Mississippi State
91. Ronald Bartell, Howard
92. Jamaal Brimmer, UNLV

Not graded: Elton Brown, Virginia (failed physical); Justin Geisinger, Vanderbilt (just one practice); Rob Pettiti, Pittsburgh (injured/hyperextended toe)
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Postby DUKE » Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:22 pm

Here's some rankings by position:

Quarterbacks

1. Charlie Frye, Akron
2. Jason Campbell, Auburn
3. David Greene, Georgia
4. Dan Orlovsky, Connecticut
5. Kyle Orton, Purdue
6. Brock Berlin, Miami (Fla.)

Running backs

1. Carnell Williams, Auburn
2. Kay-Jay Harris, West Virginia
3. J.J. Arrington, California
4. Cedric Houston, Tennessee
5. Darren Sproles, Kansas State
6. Noah Herron, Northwestern

Fullbacks

1. Zach Tuiasosopo, Washington
2. Manuel White, UCLA
3. Nehemiah Broughton, The Citadel
4. Will Matthews, Texas

Wide receivers

1. Fred Gibson, Georgia
2. Mark Clayton, Oklahoma
3. Reggie Brown, Georgia
4. Brandon Jones, Oklahoma
5. Roddy White, Ala.-Birmingham
6. Vincent Jackson, No. Colorado
7. Taylor Stubblefield, Purdue
8. Courtney Roby, Indiana
9. Craphonso Thorpe, Florida State
10. Craig Bragg, UCLA
11. Roydell Williams, Tulane
12. Matt Jones, Arkansas

Tight ends

1. Cody McCarty, TCU
2. Joel Dreessen, Colorado State
3. Alex Holmes, Southern Cal
4. Alex Smith, Stanford

Offensive guards/centers

1. Chris Myers, Miami (Fla.)
2. David Baas, Michigan
3. Dan Buenning, Wisconsin
4. Evan Mathis, Alabama
5. Jason Brown, North Carolina
6. Junius Coston, North Carolina A&T
7. Adam Snyder, Oregon
8. Marcus Johnson, Mississippi
9. Jonathan Clinkscale, Wisconsin
Not graded: Elton Brown, Virginia (failed physical); Justin Geisinger, Vanderbilt (just one practice)

Offensive tackles

1. Logan Mankins, Fresno State
2. Wesley Britt, Alabama
3. Khalif Barnes, Washington
4. Ray Willis, Florida State
5. Adam Terry, Syracuse
6. Michael Roos, Eastern Washington
7. Jeremy Parquet, Southern Miss
8. David Stewart, Mississippi State
Not graded: Rob Pettiti, Pittsburgh (injured)

Defensive tackles

1. Mike Patterson, Southern Cal
2. Attiyyah Ellison, Missouri
3. Jonathan Babineaux, Iowa
4. Anttaj Hawthorne, Wisconsin
5. Lorenzo Alexander, California
6. Shaun Cody, Southern Cal
7. Ronald Fields, Mississippi State
8. Anthony Bryant, Alabama
9. Jim Davis, Virginia Tech

Defensive ends

1. Matt Roth, Iowa
2. Marcus Spears, LSU
3. Mike Montgomery, Texas A&M
4. George Gause, South Carolina
5. Bill Swancutt, Oregon State
6. Jimmy Verdon, Arizona State

Inside linebackers

1. Barrett Ruud, Nebraska
2. Leroy Hill, Clemson
3. Lance Mitchell, Oklahoma
4. Robert McCune, Louisville
5. Alfred Fincher, Connecticut
6. Kirk Morrison, San Diego St.

Outside linebackers

1. Jared Newberry, Stanford
2. Michael Boley, Southern Miss
3. Trent Cole, Cincinnati
4. DeMarcus Ware, Troy
5. Marcus Lawrence, South Carolina
6. Cornelius Wortham, Alabama

Cornerbacks

1. Darrent Williams, Oklahoma State
2. Bryant McFadden, Florida State
3. Carlos Rogers, Auburn
4. Alphonso Hodge, Miami (Ohio)
5. Stanley Wilson, Stanford
6. Corey Webster, LSU
7. Eric Green, Virginia Tech
8. Abraham Elimimian, Hawaii
9. Travis Daniels, LSU
10. Ronald Bartell, Howard

Safeties

1. Sean Considine, Iowa
2. O.J. Otogwe, Stanford
3. James Butler, Georgia Tech
4. Junior Rosegreen, Auburn
5. Vincent Fuller, Virginia Tech
6. Jamaal Brimmer, UNLV


Wow, I'm suprised to see Jamaal Brimmer ranked so low on these rankings.
*The more I read about Vincent Jackson, the more intriguing he sounds.
*Despite the injury concerns, I think Craphonso Thorpe could end up being a steal for someone.
*I know he is small, but Darren Sproles really intrigues me. He has sick cutback ability and instincts, and plays tougher and bigger than his actual size.
*Suprised to see Cody graded so low
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Postby CC » Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:31 pm

I guess the info we've received is different in a lot of aspects.

I think Vincent Jackson is a nice sleeper prospect, but Kiper has hyped him up too much he is not polished at all. I would take Larry Brackins a million times over Vincent Jackson if I was looking for pure potential.

Sproles only measured up at 5'5 and a half, they had to use a new machine because he was too small for the normal equipment. :-b
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Postby Dr. Duran Duran » Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:36 pm

UtopianHopes wrote:
Dr. Duran Duran wrote:I manage a sports restaurant in California and the Senior Bowl practices are something we get on our sports satellite package. They're pretty boring for most to watch, but football geeks like myself find them pretty interesting. If any of you have a satellite dish, you might be able to get to see the practices live.


They were showing it on espn this week from around 3-4pm I believe.


Yeah, I know about the regular programing, but there was some extended coverage on satellite. It went for longer than one hour.
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Postby no1cowboysfan » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:48 pm

I can't believe Morrison is 6th in ILBs... there goes a first day pick...

And now that I think about it, Marviel Underwood isn't on the list. Depressing... those were States finest prospects.
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