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Postby mtryanks12 » Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:30 pm

their great management is what's helping them so much. without them, they'd be the titans in terms of the salary cap.
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Postby J2thez929 » Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:34 pm

stomperrob wrote:
J2thez929 wrote: the parody in the NFL


There's parody in Detroit, San Fran, Miami and Cleveland - for the rest of the NFL there's parity
Sorry, just couldn't resist that one! ;-)


LOL! My bad. I guess I deserved that one for my typo :-b
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Postby JohnnyUnitas » Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:14 am

Yes the Patriots are working their way around the salary cap, but that's just the way it has to be in the NFL nowadays. Still they deserve all the respect as the first dynasty of the 21st century. Much like the Cowboys of the 90s, the 49ers of the 80s and so on.
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Postby Arlo » Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:43 am

Transmogrifier wrote:Yes, the Pats are definitely "Something handed down from an ancestor or a predecessor or from the past."

:-?

Who would the ancestor be - Steve Grogan? :-D

In any case, I guess it depends on how you define dynasty. If you consider the 49ers, Steelers and Cowboys of yesterday to be dynasties, the Patriots qualify. If you think only a longer run, such as the Boston Celtics had in the '60s, counts, then the NFL has yet to see a dynasty in its modern era.
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Postby Transmogrifier » Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:24 am

Arlo wrote:
Transmogrifier wrote:Yes, the Pats are definitely "Something handed down from an ancestor or a predecessor or from the past."

:-?

Who would the ancestor be - Steve Grogan? :-D

In any case, I guess it depends on how you define dynasty. If you consider the 49ers, Steelers and Cowboys of yesterday to be dynasties, the Patriots qualify. If you think only a longer run, such as the Boston Celtics had in the '60s, counts, then the NFL has yet to see a dynasty in its modern era.


Agreed, Arlo. Criticizing the Pats for how they manipulate the salary cap--when other teams do the same thing, just not as well--is rather absurd.

The Pats are a dynasty, right now.
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Postby no1cowboysfan » Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:40 pm

Hey Trans, I like the sig... though I really don't know where you're going with posting my quote. Seeing as how its true, and its not exactly like I'm the only one who thinks so.
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Postby eaglesrule » Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:56 pm

well then by that standard, the bulls weren't a dynasty. they had two seperate 4 year-runs where they won 3 championships.

I never thought a dynasty meant that you had to run off 4 championships in a row -- but rather have a fairly long time of coninued excellence with morew than one championships thrown in -- not talking a team that comes from nowhere, wins two and then fades.

But i consider the 49ers to be a dynasty -- they were good forever, won a few champiosnhips and always made the playoffs/were a threat to win it all.

football, with its single elimination format is simply too hard to repeat like that. which is why the pats definitely qualify.
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Postby OwenTheBlonde » Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:05 pm

eaglesrule wrote:well then by that standard, the bulls weren't a dynasty. they had two seperate 4 year-runs where they won 3 championships.

I never thought a dynasty meant that you had to run off 4 championships in a row -- but rather have a fairly long time of coninued excellence with morew than one championships thrown in -- not talking a team that comes from nowhere, wins two and then fades.

But i consider the 49ers to be a dynasty -- they were good forever, won a few champiosnhips and always made the playoffs/were a threat to win it all.

football, with its single elimination format is simply too hard to repeat like that. which is why the pats definitely qualify.


The Atlanta Braves are a dynasty! Er, sorry, one championship in a long run of excellence probably doesn't qualify.
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Postby Transmogrifier » Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:29 pm

no1cowboysfan wrote:Hey Trans, I like the sig... though I really don't know where you're going with posting my quote. Seeing as how its true, and its not exactly like I'm the only one who thinks so.


Why am I quoting you? Because it's laughable.

You can try and argue that Brady isn't as good as Manning or McNabb or whatever player you want to argue--although I'd strenuously disagree--but you are arguing that Brady is mediocre.

Do you know what that means?

Mediocre: "Moderate to inferior in quality; ordinary"

I'd love to hear your argument on how Brady is moderate to inferior in quality. Please, explain.
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Postby Transmogrifier » Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:42 pm

I should add: You didn't even say he was mediocre. You said he was very mediocre!!
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