tiddley wrote:sorry but i just dont see santana hitting 85 catches he is a speed receiver who is more of the 75 1000 good year type and McCareins is your top possesion Receiver
But how come you see Coles as having a 1200 yard season. He is short, just like Moss, and very fast, just like Moss.
Gardner is the Redskins possesion receiver. I see the Skins in the same position as the Jets in terms of the WR core.
Santana's production will go down, however, if the Jets get Randy Moss, which hopefully they will.
Can we throw Roy Williams into this too? I agree those are some good sleepers that people might find very surprising next year. But, I sure hope to see Roy be as big of a target next year as he was this year. As long as he can stay away from the injuries he should be O.K. Last year's numbers seemed to drop later in the year, but if you watch him, his was never back to 100%, like the start of the year. But, that's the thing with WR's, there's so many that could come up surprising.
LT Blue Colt wrote:Can we throw Roy Williams into this too? I agree those are some good sleepers that people might find very surprising next year. But, I sure hope to see Roy be as big of a target next year as he was this year. As long as he can stay away from the injuries he should be O.K. Last year's numbers seemed to drop later in the year, but if you watch him, his was never back to 100%, like the start of the year. But, that's the thing with WR's, there's so many that could come up surprising.
I think that both Charles Rogers and Roy Williams could be great receivers if they stayed healthy. They each have the potential to put up huge numbers. Roy Williams seems to me like an Andre Johnson without the speed.
Coles has a history of success. Since he played for the Jets, he has had multiple 1000 yrd seasons and prior to this year, played like a #1 receiver. The guy had 90+ catches and played through pain.
Moss spent his first year in the NFL on IR. Then, when he was the #1 option for the jets he tore it up as a starter for 8 weeks. Now defenses know how to defend him..... he is 1 dimentional which explains his inconsistancy over the past 18 weeks. Again, he has the potential to post 1100 yrds and 6+ Td's, but he can't stay healthy!
I agree with mose.... 1) Boldin 2) Coles 3) Moss
All 3 can be had rather cheap next year. If you look at most Mock drafts, Coles is not on the radar while Boldin and Moss appear rarely. To me it's all about value and this might be it.
BTW.... R. Williams is future stud. I expect him to follow the same growth that A. Johnson has had.
I know what your saying, that Coles is more proven and Moss is not. Also remember that Jets fans hold a grudge towards Coles after he broke our hearts leaving for the Redskins after the 2002 season along with half of our team.
HOWEVER...none of these players have produced more than 2 1000 yard seasons. I still think that with the new OC for the Jets, santana will see more passes come his way.
The banished Seminole, Coles is a very talented receiver with incredible speed. He's one of the faster players in the NFL. He would be a top receiver in a different offense, but the sad part remains, that Washington runs a ball-control offense. They will not look to pass...even when Portis wasn't effective, they still tried to run the ball down after down. With a healthy line (Jansen), I expect them to look run even more. Coles did get his catches, though, and I expect him getting looks between the 20s to continue. In addition, Coles is not featured in the red zone at all. I'd bet on Cooley getting more TDs than Coles next year. More importantly, Gibbs goes to a strict goalline offense inside the 10 and will not go to a more open version until he's pitted with 3rd and goal. This is drastically different from Spurrier, who would go spread basically everywhere. Coles being a smaller guy at 5'11" (compared to Gardner), will not be featured in the RZ at all. He's great in yardage leagues, but not in leagues that favor touchdowns.
Prediction: 90 catches, 1050 yards, 4 TD
Santana Moss is fast. Very fast. He's not very strong, doesn't have great size, so his main asset is speed. He was a good deep threat every now and then. An interesting fact is that Penny played with a torn rotator cuff near the end of the season. Perhaps that is why Santana didn't go deep much towards the end of the season after Pennington's return. He's a true wild card. I'd expect improvement from this year for sure, though. Moss is too talented to not do better.
Prediction: 75 catches, 1050 yards, 7 TD
Anquan Boldin had trouble this year, first with an injury. His quarterback situation causes some concern, but remember that he did not have a top quarterback during his great rookie season, either. Believe it or not, it may be better for Quan's success if the success of the team stayed horrible. When you're down by a lot, you'll pass all day. In addition, the other team may not even bother trying too hard if the game is basically in the books. Anquan has a talented, maturing WR in Fitzgerald opposite of him who will take off some pressure, but also take catches away. I don't think Boldin will ever have another season like 2003 (unless he is in a different situation), but that's no cause for shame, because many great receivers never have those types of seasons. Boldin has great strength to go down the middle and make something happen after the catch.
Prediction: 90 catches, 1150 yards, 9 TD
Boldin
Moss
Coles
My predictions for Moss may be a little high. I would probably lean towards drafting Coles over Moss (a gut feeling), but I can't seem to change my predictions.
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I do not want the jets to get Randy Moss!!!!!!!!!!!Two first round picks and a defensive starter....noooooo thankssssss.......I think our new oc will better utilize the talent we have.....personally, I think McCarin s will benefit more from Heimerdinger(sp?) than Moss will ..but we'll see...
LT Blue Colt wrote:Can we throw Roy Williams into this too? I agree those are some good sleepers that people might find very surprising next year. But, I sure hope to see Roy be as big of a target next year as he was this year. As long as he can stay away from the injuries he should be O.K. Last year's numbers seemed to drop later in the year, but if you watch him, his was never back to 100%, like the start of the year. But, that's the thing with WR's, there's so many that could come up surprising.
IF Joey Harrington goes with the vertical passign game (when they pass), roy coulkd be a nice sleeper, and sort of a mini issac bruce. although with charles rogers back at #1, he will decrease in value, and with kevin jones, they'll probably 60:40 playcall in favor of the run, so I don't see why he'd be all that bater next year.