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Postby Kensat30 » Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:09 pm

Dr. Duran Duran wrote:I think Losman can become a very capable NFL starter, but there will likely be a lot of bumps along the way. I don't think Losman's promotion will mean elevated stats for any skill position players until he gets acclimated to the speed of the NFL. Ben Roethlisberger had one of the best rookie seasons by any NFL quarterback and I didn't see Hines Ward or Plaxico Burress have an upward spike in their stats. If anything, Ward and Burress' stats suffered even with Big Ben having a great rookie campaign.


Hard to increase on your WR stats when your opportunities are cut in half. When was the last time you saw a franchise run the ball more than 600 times in one season? Let me clue you in, it's a very rare occurance. Ben Roethlisburger had the 5th highest QB rating in the NFL in 2004....

Unless of course you forsee the Bill's handing off 600 times in 2005 (or even 500 times for that matter), using Hines Ward and Plaxico Burress decrease in production is pretty irrelevant to the discussion of rookie QBs.

Don't quote Eli Manning stats either: the New York Giants have way less talent on offensive than the Buffalo Bill's... and techinically, Losman is no longer a rookie QB.
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Postby Mercer Boy » Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:51 pm

I think Losman can be next year's Roethlisberger...he has a hungry RB to advance the ball in McGahee, a proven receiver who can make good catches in Moulds, and a tough defense to keep the other team from scoring a bunch of points. The problem is that I doubt they will see the same success as the Steelers due to the division they play in. They can probably win as many as last year if not one more even with Losman in there.

I saw the guy in preseason before he hurt himself, and I was very impressed. Yes, preseason, not great competition, whatever...but he gives more to the team than Bledsoe does - youthful exhuberance, escapability, and an excited fan base. I hope Buffalo can pick up where they left off last year. ;-D
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Postby Dr. Duran Duran » Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:59 pm

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Dr. Duran Duran wrote:I think Losman can become a very capable NFL starter, but there will likely be a lot of bumps along the way. I don't think Losman's promotion will mean elevated stats for any skill position players until he gets acclimated to the speed of the NFL. Ben Roethlisberger had one of the best rookie seasons by any NFL quarterback and I didn't see Hines Ward or Plaxico Burress have an upward spike in their stats. If anything, Ward and Burress' stats suffered even with Big Ben having a great rookie campaign.


Hard to increase on your WR stats when your opportunities are cut in half. When was the last time you saw a franchise run the ball more than 600 times in one season? Let me clue you in, it's a very rare occurance. Ben Roethlisburger had the 5th highest QB rating in the NFL in 2004....

Unless of course you forsee the Bill's handing off 600 times in 2005 (or even 500 times for that matter), using Hines Ward and Plaxico Burress decrease in production is pretty irrelevant to the discussion of rookie QBs.

Don't quote Eli Manning stats either: the New York Giants have way less talent on offensive than the Buffalo Bill's... and techinically, Losman is no longer a rookie QB.


Sure, Losman will have to pass the ball more than Ben did in 2004, but how do you see Moulds and Evans getting signifcantly better with a rookie quarterback taking the helm? Losman hasn't been given ample opportunity to take the field and we're expecting better numbers than Bledsoe's? Sorry, I just don't buy it, and Losman, for all intents and purposes, is a rookie quarterback. Sure, he held a clipboard last year, but he didn't get any real playing time. Few quarterbacks in their first year at the helm have big success in the NFL right away. It takes time.

Say what you will about the talent surrounding Losman, I just don't see him throwing more than 20 touchdowns and 3,000 yards at best. Not a huge increase over Bledsoe's 16 touchdowns and 3,000 yards.
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Postby Flockers » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:02 pm

Lets see if Losman lives up to his first round pick status.
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Postby mutantseabass » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:31 pm

LT Blue Colt wrote:Huh! All be damn! Maybe he could make a bigger impact in Detroit than Garcia.


Hell no, keep Bledsoe get him away from Detroit. We dont need another immobile QB, especially one past his prime.
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Postby Azrael » Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:27 pm

Mercer Boy wrote:I think Losman can be next year's Roethlisberger...he has a hungry RB to advance the ball in McGahee, a proven receiver who can make good catches in Moulds, and a tough defense to keep the other team from scoring a bunch of points.


Good statement. He's coming into a rare situation where the talent and defense are there around him. Hopefully, Mularkey will put him in a position where he just has to not lose games rather than try to win them.
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Postby Atog » Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:29 pm

mutantseabass wrote:
LT Blue Colt wrote:Huh! All be damn! Maybe he could make a bigger impact in Detroit than Garcia.


Hell no, keep Bledsoe get him away from Detroit. We dont need another immobile QB, especially one past his prime.


worked for Brees+whatshisname....
I'm optimistic for any QB but Joey and McMahon in Detroit.
Well, Maybe McMahon. I like him. Could be a decent QB.
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Postby mutantseabass » Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:37 pm

Atog wrote:
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LT Blue Colt wrote:Huh! All be damn! Maybe he could make a bigger impact in Detroit than Garcia.


Hell no, keep Bledsoe get him away from Detroit. We dont need another immobile QB, especially one past his prime.


worked for Brees+whatshisname....
I'm optimistic for any QB but Joey and McMahon in Detroit.
Well, Maybe McMahon. I like him. Could be a decent QB.


little different Rivers is a supposed young stud, Bledsoe is a horse put out to pasture.
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Postby moochman » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:47 am

I don't see Bledsoe going to Detroit. If they want an immobile, fumble-prone, old QB they'll pick up Mrs. Warner's husband.

I hope this doesn't interfere with the developement of Evans. He really seeemed to be comming on the last portion of the season. This could stunt him.
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Postby kevinoc81 » Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:12 am

I could see Losman, Moulds, and Evans numbers being similar to Palmer, CJ, Housh's stats this year. Bumpy to start, but smooth out down the stretch.
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