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Postby Sixxgunn » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:49 am

Sorry about that onepunch,I guess my eyesight ain't what it used to be!Wasn't it hard to get Woods on the field with the saavy vet Curtis Conway(snicker)and Lloyd out there?I gotta think if he couldn't sit Conway down he isn't going to amount to much.
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Postby no1cowboysfan » Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:55 pm

In SF, there's Conway, Lloyd, Woods and Wilson. I believe Woods was 4th (maybe 3rd) on the depth chart last year, but yes, when Conway is gone, Woods should have more of an oppurtunity.
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Postby OwenTheBlonde » Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:01 pm

no1cowboysfan wrote:In SF, there's Conway, Lloyd, Woods and Wilson. I believe Woods was 4th (maybe 3rd) on the depth chart last year, but yes, when Conway is gone, Woods should have more of an oppurtunity.


Wilson should be gone leaving a quartet of Woods, Conway, Lloyd and Hamilton. BTW, I really like Lloyd. Kind of a "all he does is catch touchdowns" kinda guy. Back to the point. I tossed the Woods question out in a couple of Niner forums and majority opinion was 1) His hamstring he hurt in training camp last year held him back 2) He should get a chance at being at least #2 this year but 3) His skills don't fit a return to the West Coast offense. He isn't a great route runner, etc. I wouldn't put him too high but since the Niners will have to pass all year again, he could pop up on the radar like Wilson and Lloyd last year.
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Postby onepunch » Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:48 pm

Great info Owen. Just what I was looking for. Thanks!!!
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Postby MadScott » Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:16 pm

OwenTheBlonde wrote:
no1cowboysfan wrote:In SF, there's Conway, Lloyd, Woods and Wilson. I believe Woods was 4th (maybe 3rd) on the depth chart last year, but yes, when Conway is gone, Woods should have more of an oppurtunity.


Wilson should be gone leaving a quartet of Woods, Conway, Lloyd and Hamilton. BTW, I really like Lloyd. Kind of a "all he does is catch touchdowns" kinda guy. Back to the point. I tossed the Woods question out in a couple of Niner forums and majority opinion was 1) His hamstring he hurt in training camp last year held him back 2) He should get a chance at being at least #2 this year but 3) His skills don't fit a return to the West Coast offense. He isn't a great route runner, etc. I wouldn't put him too high but since the Niners will have to pass all year again, he could pop up on the radar like Wilson and Lloyd last year.
Nice synopsis on Woods to be sure. I've heard the same things about Woods to the point that depending on whether they keep the #1 pick or not, they could well be in the mix for Mike Williams formerly of USC.

Don't be surprised if Berrian does find his way into that Bears lineup that should be much better next year in it's second season. Once Grossman gets back, he'll have a legit QB to pass the ball.
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Postby OwenTheBlonde » Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:23 pm

And actually I just poked my head back in and there's debate about Woods' route-running. Pretty divided. All agree he's fast and deserves a shot though. A couple of Jimmy Smith comparisons. It'll be interesting to see if he's a starter for a team that will still have to pass all the time. There are some who want Mike Williams but most want D.
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Postby MadScott » Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:48 pm

I don't think that we necessarily need another WR either but that just shows you how shortsighted Terry Donahue was last year, painting us into this corner. Owen, PM me a link if you can to the sight that you are talking about, I'm interested to see what it looks like.

On topic, I think Colbert is the real deal and Williams and Wilford teaming with Leftwich could be very explosive in the future.
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Postby Kensat30 » Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:10 pm

OwenTheBlonde wrote:And actually I just poked my head back in and there's debate about Woods' route-running. Pretty divided. All agree he's fast and deserves a shot though. A couple of Jimmy Smith comparisons. It'll be interesting to see if he's a starter for a team that will still have to pass all the time. There are some who want Mike Williams but most want D.


Woods looks like a major work in progress IMO. He seems to have all the measurable: size, speed, power, etc. but he's missing a lot of the intangibles. I'm less concerned with his route running and more with his inability to make catches.

I know he didn't get much playing time in 2004, but whenever I saw him play it seemed like he had trouble catching any ball outside of the window (chest area). Never once saw him make a tough catch in traffic, but then again he didn't get a lot of opportunities. I know it takes a lot of time for a WR to develop, despite all the rookie and sophmore WRs that have been stepping up lately, but Woods just doesn't seem like he will ever been a solid starter in the NFL to me.

He needs to get on that training regime that Javon Walker went on in the offseason. But wait, I've also heard that he is a "do only as much as is necessary type guy". Too bad the Niner's missed out on all the top WRs in the draft, if Mike Williams came out we woulda landed a stud at #15.
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Postby MadScott » Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:32 pm

Kensat30 wrote:Woods looks like a major work in progress IMO. He seems to have all the measurable: size, speed, power, etc. but he's missing a lot of the intangibles. I'm less concerned with his route running and more with his inability to make catches.

I know he didn't get much playing time in 2004, but whenever I saw him play it seemed like he had trouble catching any ball outside of the window (chest area). Never once saw him make a tough catch in traffic, but then again he didn't get a lot of opportunities. I know it takes a lot of time for a WR to develop, despite all the rookie and sophmore WRs that have been stepping up lately, but Woods just doesn't seem like he will ever been a solid starter in the NFL to me.

He needs to get on that training regime that Javon Walker went on in the offseason. But wait, I've also heard that he is a "do only as much as is necessary type guy". Too bad the Niner's missed out on all the top WRs in the draft, if Mike Williams came out we woulda landed a stud at #15.
Can you JJ Stokes redux? I don't like the sounds of him at all. He was a stretch to say the least.
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Postby Azrael » Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:47 am

This is hard to gauge because typically guys don't breakout until their 3rd year and so many rookies WRs uncharacteristically did very well in their rookie years. I don't have anyone in the top 10 in my rankings but Clayton, Evans, Roy(sorry not R.O.Y.) Williams, and Fitzgerald seem the most likely candidates. I put Clayton and Evans a step above both though because the other 2 have opposite receivers coming back off injury years healthy (Boldin, Rogers(again))
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