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Postby 1crzydmnd » Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:34 pm

I haven't seen this...but it sounds good. It's Mike Judge's (Office Space) new movie. It probably won't play in a major release...so look for it on DVD.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
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Postby moonhead » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:27 pm

1crzydmnd wrote:I haven't seen this...but it sounds good. It's Mike Judge's (Office Space) new movie. It probably won't play in a major release...so look for it on DVD.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/



it's piqued my interest...but it's getting slammed on the imdb boards.
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Postby wickerkat » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:27 pm

got 7/10 at imdb, not bad - good premise, hard to say on the execution, i'd say worthwhile rental

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Postby bagobonez » Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:57 pm

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Jimboozie wrote:My friend scored some free passes to see Silent Hill. I went in with low expectations since most video game movies are garbage. Suprisingly, Silent Hill was not bad at all. I give it 7/10 stars. If you have ever played the original Silent Hill game then the beginning of the movie will be very familiar to you. Later on into the movie, the plot branches out away from the video game (Big Schocker!)

What I liked most about the movie was the great score and stunning visuals. The movie makers did a great job capturing the Silent Hill look and feel. The movie does lack a bit of punch in the horror department and the story is a bit hard to follow. All in all it was a decent horror flick that could have been better but also could have been much worse than what it was.


I saw Silent Hill this afternoon and I would only give it a 5 / 10.

While I never played the video game I was familiar with the story and wanted to see how this transcended onto the screen. I thought the special effects were good and the gore was tame at best but two things bothered me about this movie:

1. I agree with Jimboozie - the plot was very difficult to follow. There was a lot of bouncing back and forth between this world and the "other" world and the connection between the two got lost.

2. The end - yet another movie which failed to tie up the loose ends. I was left scratching my head and saying to myself "that's it?"

Overall it wasn't bad but a little less difficult plot and a better ending might have gotten me to give it a better score.


**MAJOR SPOILERS** as I explain the entire movie for those of you who say it makes no sense...

Dahlia Gillespie had a daughter named Alessa. No one knew who her father was. Alessa was not liked by children or adults...a group of religious fanatics, led by Christabella, believed that this innocent was a witch and needed to be cleansed (that means killed)so that evil would not invade their community. Dahlia agreed because she was so fearful of this group and their promised %#!%& of her if she didn't agree. They burnt poor little Alessa, but the sacrifice went wrong and killed everyone in the cult...That's right, THEY'RE ALL DEAD...All of them are stuck in limbo...purgatory if you will. (It's kinda like the bad ending in the 1st game, by bad it means you didn't complete everything there was to do in the game.) In this purgatory, Alessa's pain and anguish turn to hatred and a desire for revenge...Her hatred is so great that the bed ridden Alessa breaks off into two parts...Her dark side and everything that is light in Alessa. They don't want her light side to be overtaken by the hatred, so to protect her they take her to an orphanage...there is also another reason for this.

Rose and Chris Da Silva want to adopt a child. And although she's adopted, Sharon is Rose's daughter; She knew it from the moment she saw her...

But as Sharon gets older, she starts sleep walking and having nightmares about a place called "Silent Hill"...She is being called back by Alessa...the other part of herself, and she's supposed to bring Rose with her (because Rose is the one Alessa really needs)...so, Rose takes Sharon to the town of Silent Hill.

Along the way they meet up with a cop, Cybil Bennett, who is suspicious of Sharon's outburst...The movie even explains why Cybil would be so suspicious of something not that out of the ordinary; You see, in the past, she found a little boy dumped in a well by a psychopath and had to stay in the well with the boy until help came, to keep him from dying...so Cybil is probably almost paranoid when it comes to children...Cybil follows Rose and Sharon into Silent Hill an abandoned old coal mining town that is still burning underground...As soon as they enter the city limits, a ghostly figure of a girl runs out into the road in front of Rose's car and causes then to wreck...Could it be Alessa? Rose smacks her head hard...We later find out that Cybil wrecked and smacked her head as well...Hmmnn...

So, now they're in the town, so let's speed it up...Alessa's revenge is the darkness that turns everything dark and hellish...The siren on the church is to warn all the cult members to get to the church because the darkness can't get in there...Alessa sent her light part out so that she could bring someone back, like Rose, because Alessa needs Rose to take her into the church, because Rose can go into the church...where she can then finally get her revenge on those that mercilessly destroyed her...The only way that Rose could get into purgatory and help is by...that's right, by dying...Rose and Cybil both died in the accident. No Cybil wasn't needed by Alessa, she just basically got caught up in a bad situation. You can tell that they're dead because when Chris goes to the town with the cop, the town is abandoned, but completely normal and...this is the big one...Rose can run right through him...and at the end, that's why Rose and Sharon are still in the haze, but Chris is completely clear.

But no, there is a completely other level to this movie...Alessa was a sweet innocent that people decided was a hethen because she seemingly had no father...Sound familiar? The fanatics sacrifice her, but she comes back, almost as if resurrected...get it? She's almost crucified there at the end...there are rows of thorns (that would be the barbed wire) everywhere...

And yes, all of this IS explained in the movie.. This is what we call an intelligent movie. The filmmakers actually expected audiences to think and assumed that they had the capacity to do so.


First - Thanks for explaining the movie because IT REALLY DIDN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE while I was watching it. I already stated I didn't play the video game and in all honesty, it really wasn't explained THAT clearly in the movie.

Second - are you trying to be a horse's butt with this statement:

bagobonez wrote:And yes, all of this IS explained in the movie.. This is what we call an intelligent movie. The filmmakers actually expected audiences to think and assumed that they had the capacity to do so.


Please don't insult my intelligence by making a comment like this. I didn't fully understand this movie and the plot was hard to follow. I appreciate the explanation but could have done without the sarcasm.


I should have mentioned that the explanation given was not mine. I copied and pasted it from a site. I should have put it in quotes too or something. I was not personally attacking you, I was just putting what the other guy said about it. No hard feelings? :-b
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Postby The_Captain » Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:25 pm

bagobonez wrote:
The_Captain wrote:
bagobonez wrote:
The_Captain wrote:
Jimboozie wrote:My friend scored some free passes to see Silent Hill. I went in with low expectations since most video game movies are garbage. Suprisingly, Silent Hill was not bad at all. I give it 7/10 stars. If you have ever played the original Silent Hill game then the beginning of the movie will be very familiar to you. Later on into the movie, the plot branches out away from the video game (Big Schocker!)

What I liked most about the movie was the great score and stunning visuals. The movie makers did a great job capturing the Silent Hill look and feel. The movie does lack a bit of punch in the horror department and the story is a bit hard to follow. All in all it was a decent horror flick that could have been better but also could have been much worse than what it was.


I saw Silent Hill this afternoon and I would only give it a 5 / 10.

While I never played the video game I was familiar with the story and wanted to see how this transcended onto the screen. I thought the special effects were good and the gore was tame at best but two things bothered me about this movie:

1. I agree with Jimboozie - the plot was very difficult to follow. There was a lot of bouncing back and forth between this world and the "other" world and the connection between the two got lost.

2. The end - yet another movie which failed to tie up the loose ends. I was left scratching my head and saying to myself "that's it?"

Overall it wasn't bad but a little less difficult plot and a better ending might have gotten me to give it a better score.


**MAJOR SPOILERS** as I explain the entire movie for those of you who say it makes no sense...

Dahlia Gillespie had a daughter named Alessa. No one knew who her father was. Alessa was not liked by children or adults...a group of religious fanatics, led by Christabella, believed that this innocent was a witch and needed to be cleansed (that means killed)so that evil would not invade their community. Dahlia agreed because she was so fearful of this group and their promised %#!%& of her if she didn't agree. They burnt poor little Alessa, but the sacrifice went wrong and killed everyone in the cult...That's right, THEY'RE ALL DEAD...All of them are stuck in limbo...purgatory if you will. (It's kinda like the bad ending in the 1st game, by bad it means you didn't complete everything there was to do in the game.) In this purgatory, Alessa's pain and anguish turn to hatred and a desire for revenge...Her hatred is so great that the bed ridden Alessa breaks off into two parts...Her dark side and everything that is light in Alessa. They don't want her light side to be overtaken by the hatred, so to protect her they take her to an orphanage...there is also another reason for this.

Rose and Chris Da Silva want to adopt a child. And although she's adopted, Sharon is Rose's daughter; She knew it from the moment she saw her...

But as Sharon gets older, she starts sleep walking and having nightmares about a place called "Silent Hill"...She is being called back by Alessa...the other part of herself, and she's supposed to bring Rose with her (because Rose is the one Alessa really needs)...so, Rose takes Sharon to the town of Silent Hill.

Along the way they meet up with a cop, Cybil Bennett, who is suspicious of Sharon's outburst...The movie even explains why Cybil would be so suspicious of something not that out of the ordinary; You see, in the past, she found a little boy dumped in a well by a psychopath and had to stay in the well with the boy until help came, to keep him from dying...so Cybil is probably almost paranoid when it comes to children...Cybil follows Rose and Sharon into Silent Hill an abandoned old coal mining town that is still burning underground...As soon as they enter the city limits, a ghostly figure of a girl runs out into the road in front of Rose's car and causes then to wreck...Could it be Alessa? Rose smacks her head hard...We later find out that Cybil wrecked and smacked her head as well...Hmmnn...

So, now they're in the town, so let's speed it up...Alessa's revenge is the darkness that turns everything dark and hellish...The siren on the church is to warn all the cult members to get to the church because the darkness can't get in there...Alessa sent her light part out so that she could bring someone back, like Rose, because Alessa needs Rose to take her into the church, because Rose can go into the church...where she can then finally get her revenge on those that mercilessly destroyed her...The only way that Rose could get into purgatory and help is by...that's right, by dying...Rose and Cybil both died in the accident. No Cybil wasn't needed by Alessa, she just basically got caught up in a bad situation. You can tell that they're dead because when Chris goes to the town with the cop, the town is abandoned, but completely normal and...this is the big one...Rose can run right through him...and at the end, that's why Rose and Sharon are still in the haze, but Chris is completely clear.

But no, there is a completely other level to this movie...Alessa was a sweet innocent that people decided was a hethen because she seemingly had no father...Sound familiar? The fanatics sacrifice her, but she comes back, almost as if resurrected...get it? She's almost crucified there at the end...there are rows of thorns (that would be the barbed wire) everywhere...

And yes, all of this IS explained in the movie.. This is what we call an intelligent movie. The filmmakers actually expected audiences to think and assumed that they had the capacity to do so.


First - Thanks for explaining the movie because IT REALLY DIDN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE while I was watching it. I already stated I didn't play the video game and in all honesty, it really wasn't explained THAT clearly in the movie.

Second - are you trying to be a horse's butt with this statement:

bagobonez wrote:And yes, all of this IS explained in the movie.. This is what we call an intelligent movie. The filmmakers actually expected audiences to think and assumed that they had the capacity to do so.


Please don't insult my intelligence by making a comment like this. I didn't fully understand this movie and the plot was hard to follow. I appreciate the explanation but could have done without the sarcasm.


I should have mentioned that the explanation given was not mine. I copied and pasted it from a site. I should have put it in quotes too or something. I was not personally attacking you, I was just putting what the other guy said about it. No hard feelings? :-b


:-b - that probably would have helped separate the distinction that it belonged to someone else and not you. No problem either way Bago - thanks for clearing it up and certainly no hard feelings.
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Postby Metroid » Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:11 pm

How convenient the last movie discussed in this thread was Silent Hill since I just wasted the last two hours or so sitting through that turd of a movie. Visual effects were pretty top notch and the music was entertaining but the dialog and acting were appauling. I dont mind hard to follow movies when done right but nothing short of the CG, and audio in this flick was done right. I have seen much worse movies but not many. Its bad movies like this that make you appreciate the good ones. 2/10 at best. :-t
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Postby deluxe_247 » Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:49 pm

please dont quote that silent hill post again or im going to sue for damages to my finger from scrolling down so far :-) :-b
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Postby lmcjaho » Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:56 pm

Went to see Flyboys tonight... I liked it. If you liked Iron Eagle, Top Gun, Pearl Harbor or any of that genre I think you'd like this too...
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Postby wickerkat » Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:07 am

what looks good that's new? i have 2 year old twins, so don't get to the movies much these days

the new scorcese film (the departed) looks interesting - i'll see just about anything with jack nicholson in it

also, there is another magician movie (not the illusionist, but heard that was good too) called the prestige coming out that looked good - with hugh jackman and christian bale

if you like bale at all, go see the machinist, a FREAKY movie, he lost like 60 lbs or something to do that film, looked like a skeleton - it is a dark, wild ride, a great rental

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Postby Metroid » Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:17 am

wickerkat wrote:what looks good that's new? i have 2 year old twins, so don't get to the movies much these days

the new scorcese film (the departed) looks interesting - i'll see just about anything with jack nicholson in it

also, there is another magician movie (not the illusionist, but heard that was good too) called the prestige coming out that looked good - with hugh jackman and christian bale

if you like bale at all, go see the machinist, a FREAKY movie, he lost like 60 lbs or something to do that film, looked like a skeleton - it is a dark, wild ride, a great rental

peace,
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That movie was messed up. I liked it though but yeah FREAKY! 8-o
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