Cowboys sign Rivera - Fantasy Football Cafe 2013 Fantasy Football Cafe


Return to Football Talk

Cowboys sign Rivera

Moderator: Football Moderators

Cowboys sign Rivera

Postby Flux » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:44 pm

rotoworld wrote:Cowboys signed guard Marco Rivera, formerly of the Packers, to a five-year contract worth $20 million.
At 32, Rivera tied the largest signing bonus ever for a guard, $9 million.

The Cowboys probably overpaid again, but the right side of their offensive line was their biggest weakness last year. They need to protect Bledsoe. All signs point towards Parcells trying to go out in a blaze of glory in the next two years before leaving the franchise in rough shape. Mar. 3 - 5:14 pm et


Man, these signing bonuses are getting ridiculous. Nonetheless, good move by the cowboys who needed to fix that line for Bledsoe
Image
Flux
Mod in Retirement
Mod in Retirement

User avatar
CafeholicFantasy ExpertCafe RankerMock(ing) DrafterEagle EyePick 3 Weekly WinnerMatchup Meltdown SurvivorCafe Blackjack Weekly WinnerLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 6113
(Past Year: 11)
Joined: 7 Jul 2003
Yards this season: 0
Home Cafe: Football

Postby cooleyhigh » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:48 pm

It seems like the big signing bonuses were used by the Redskins because it does not immediately count against your cap? However it comes back to haunt you down the road.

I need to read up on how these things work. Anyone know?

Great signing btw. Dallas should contend for the playoffs as a wildcard now.
Image
cooleyhigh
Head Coach
Head Coach

User avatar

Posts: 1187
Joined: 23 May 2004
Yards this season: 0
Home Cafe: Football
Location: Various MRI centers demanding results

Postby no1cowboysfan » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:52 pm

kind of a big bonus, but I expected a lot worse than 4 million a year from crazy JJ...

Well, I'm relieved. It seems Day 2 is better than Day 1 for me... ;-D

Dallas: Working our way out of the cellar... ;-D
Image

'Cause I'm Cow ... Boy ... for life.
no1cowboysfan
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
Mock(ing) Drafter
Posts: 5255
Joined: 28 Sep 2004
Yards this season: 0
Home Cafe: Football
Location: From Diego to tha bay ...

Postby disgruntledjetsfan » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:03 pm

Yea, Dallas is making some moves. Rivera is very solid, not as good as Wahle, who should be available soon if he isn't already, but good. That will help Dallas out big time.

But what is with the money they are throwing around? It seems like Jones thinks they can win this year, right away. This could end up hurting them down the road when they have a more developed team that is capable of winning.
disgruntledjetsfan
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
Cafe RankerMock(ing) DrafterCafe MusketeerSweet 16 Survivor
Posts: 6350
(Past Year: 44)
Joined: 25 Jan 2005
Yards this season: 0
Home Cafe: Football
Location: Fighting in the shade...

Postby no1cowboysfan » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:06 pm

cooleyhigh wrote:It seems like the big signing bonuses were used by the Redskins because it does not immediately count against your cap? However it comes back to haunt you down the road.

I need to read up on how these things work. Anyone know?

Great signing btw. Dallas should contend for the playoffs as a wildcard now.


I'm not sure how these work (cap figures, I mean), but here's how I think it works...

Base salary, while still on the team, is what counts against the cap for the players. But when a player is cut or traded, the remaining signing bonus that hasn't been paid must all be paid, and counts against the cap. Something like that, anyways.
Image

'Cause I'm Cow ... Boy ... for life.
no1cowboysfan
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
Mock(ing) Drafter
Posts: 5255
Joined: 28 Sep 2004
Yards this season: 0
Home Cafe: Football
Location: From Diego to tha bay ...

Postby cooleyhigh » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:12 pm

no1cowboysfan wrote:
cooleyhigh wrote:It seems like the big signing bonuses were used by the Redskins because it does not immediately count against your cap? However it comes back to haunt you down the road.

I need to read up on how these things work. Anyone know?

Great signing btw. Dallas should contend for the playoffs as a wildcard now.


I'm not sure how these work (cap figures, I mean), but here's how I think it works...

Base salary, while still on the team, is what counts against the cap for the players. But when a player is cut or traded, the remaining signing bonus that hasn't been paid must all be paid, and counts against the cap. Something like that, anyways.


I think you are right. Thats how it worked on Madden, and I cussed many a player I had to keep on my roster :-b
Image
cooleyhigh
Head Coach
Head Coach

User avatar

Posts: 1187
Joined: 23 May 2004
Yards this season: 0
Home Cafe: Football
Location: Various MRI centers demanding results

Postby bagobonez » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:18 pm

DisgruntledJetsFan wrote:Yea, Dallas is making some moves. Rivera is very solid, not as good as Wahle, who should be available soon if he isn't already, but good. That will help Dallas out big time.

But what is with the money they are throwing around? It seems like Jones thinks they can win this year, right away. This could end up hurting them down the road when they have a more developed team that is capable of winning.


THey gave Ferguson some money, I agree, but the Henry deal was actually pretty cheap, especially now that Lucas just made a mega deal paying him over $8 mil a year. Henry's $4 mil a year looks very meager compared to $8 mil a year, when the two are very close in talent.

Think about it, you can't find starting CB material in this league for less than $3-4 mil a year. It's just not going to happen. And if you can, they probably SHOULDN'T be starting.

Dallas is fine. They had $20 mil in cap room to spend before free agency, they've signed 4 starters in free agency (Bledsoe, Ferguson, Henry, Rivera) and still have some wiggle room and will still be able to sign two first round draft picks.

Plus the signings will not handicap Dallas for years to come. Take Ferguson's contract for example. It's front loaded, so if Dallas decides to cut him after 2 years, the cap hit won't be that bad.

I'd rather Dallas throw money around and make a legitimate effort to improve the team than sit on their hands and go 6-10 like they did last year.
"90% of the game is half mental" - John Madden
Image
bagobonez
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar

Posts: 4463
(Past Year: 24)
Joined: 23 Jun 2004
Yards this season: 0
Home Cafe: Football
Location: Atop my league's fantasy throne

Postby disgruntledjetsfan » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:32 pm

Maybe I'm just bitter about the Jason Ferguson signing. He is a very good DT and with Dewayne Robertson the Jets probably had the best combo up the middle. Not anymore though :~(
disgruntledjetsfan
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
Cafe RankerMock(ing) DrafterCafe MusketeerSweet 16 Survivor
Posts: 6350
(Past Year: 44)
Joined: 25 Jan 2005
Yards this season: 0
Home Cafe: Football
Location: Fighting in the shade...

Postby bagobonez » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:50 pm

DisgruntledJetsFan wrote:Maybe I'm just bitter about the Jason Ferguson signing. He is a very good DT and with Dewayne Robertson the Jets probably had the best combo up the middle. Not anymore though :~(


THey had a nice combo to be sure. Maybe only Jacksonville's Stroud/Henderson combo was better.

Now maybe Dallas' Glover/Ferguson combo will be one of the best.
"90% of the game is half mental" - John Madden
Image
bagobonez
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar

Posts: 4463
(Past Year: 24)
Joined: 23 Jun 2004
Yards this season: 0
Home Cafe: Football
Location: Atop my league's fantasy throne

Postby PackerAttack84 » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:08 pm

I am glad that the Packers didn't resign him to some huge contract. I think Rivera should be exiting his prime very soon and at the age of 32 is a liability concern. I don't know about the 9 million dollar signing bonus, the bonus is guaranteed money, so if he pulls a Joe Johnson, then Rivera will get that 9 million, and them signing him to a 5-year deal is crazy, that was like when the Mets signed Pedro to a 4-year deal. Rivera is going to be there until he is 37? :-o
Image
PackerAttack84
General Manager
General Manager

User avatar
Cafe WriterCafe RankerMock(ing) DrafterEagle EyeSweet 16 SurvivorCafe Blackjack Weekly Winner
Posts: 4532
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
Yards this season: 0
Home Cafe: Football
Location: At a Friend's House

Next

Return to Football Talk

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: douttixLoorie, Packannepay and 0 guests

cron
Forums Articles & Tips Start & Sit Sleepers Rankings Leagues


Get Ready...
The 2013 NFL season kicks off in 1:43 hours
(and 79 days)
2013 NFL Schedule


  • Fantasy Football
  • Article Submissions
  • Privacy Statement
  • Site Survey 
  • Contact