smnbuv wrote:I can't believe you people can blame Mike Tice for the way the offense is being run. Scott Linehan is a great offensive coordinator. Look at what he has done with his severe lack of talent in Miami. I agree that Mike Tice is not a great head coach in the NFL, but he also is not the worst.
Having Steve Loney as the offensive coordinator is a serious joke. That guy shouldn't be the o-coordinator for a pee-wee team much less the Vikings.
My solution? Bring Linehan back to MN only this time as a head coach and let Tice go back to working with Tight Ends and O-line.
B4P, how can you say Linehan was horrible and a joke of an offensive coordinator? The guy led the Vikings' offense to years in which they were among the top offenses in the NFL, and perenially were feared by opposing defenses. The guy has now taken a very low amount of talent in Miami's offense to be a very competent offense, led by an ex-Viking Gus Frerotte. I consider it a huge front office mistake letting Linehan go. Look at last year's offense with Moss out for those games, now look at this year's offense. We didn't have Birk for most of last season either, so pretty much everything's the same...Here's the stats for ya:
04 season games without Moss:
vs TEN - 313 yards 20 points
vs NYG - 324 yards 13 points
vs IND - 292 yards 28 points
vs GB - 416 yards 31 points
vs DET - 319 yards 20 points
Total - 1664 yards 112 points through 5 games
05 season without Moss:
vs TB - 248 yards 13 points
vs CIN - 304 yards 8 points
vs NO - 420 yards 33 points
vs ATL - 261 yards 10 points
vs CHI - 283 yards 3 points
vs GB - 363 yards 23 points
vs CAR - 253 yards 13 points
Through first 5 games total: 1516 yards 67 points
Take the 5 games last year without Moss and the first five this year without Moss and you've got less yards and less than 60% of the points that they had last year. We can't really use any more of the games since now Brad Johnson is going to be starting, and that's another excuse for the Vikes to suck. But there's no way that you can say that Linehan was a bad OC.
Sure I agree that there's more problems than Tice. We suffered from horrible management and ownership, and that was seen when Moss was traded away. We got absolutely nothing for him, and then we used the pick on Troy Williamson. The guy had bust written all over him. I wish they'd have used it on a defensive guy. I don't care if it was too high, take Derrick Johnson. Why trade the best WR in the game to get another pick to use on a WR who ultimately is not going to be as good as he is? Wasn't the point to improve the team? How are you going to improve the team by exchanging a WR for a worse one and a backup LB on a squad that already has horrible LBs?
But still, Tice has done nothing to help the team, and drafing Williamson and all the freaking D-lineman is more his fault than anybody else's. Get rid of him, he's the cancer.