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Postby vdragon78 » Mon May 16, 2005 9:29 am

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Canadian_Cheesehead wrote:On a side note, who else is pumped for a Judah-Mosley or Judah-De La Hoya matchup? Ooh, that'll be real nice.


;-D I definitely am. Zab seems to have matured a bit. That division is looking awesome right about now, with DLH and Mosely entering it. I think both DLH and Mosely are much better at that weight anyway. Their power was too negated and they couldn't take the shots at the higher weights they were previously at. I would love to see Zab take on either of these two, and maybe throw Margarito into the mix as well. When Zab is on though, I have a hard time picking anyone against him. He's one of the most talented boxers pound for pound in the sport IMO.


Zab is a spectacular fighter. The guy is lightning fast. But his weak chin will hold him back forever... You can't teach chin unfortunately. He'll spend his whole career avoiding that power punch -- but he can't do it in every fight. He was exposed (and embarrased) against Tszuy, and i doubt it'll be the last time.
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Postby kashikis » Mon May 16, 2005 10:55 am

JayM09 wrote:120-107
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119-108

all judges for winky who wins by decision


Damn by those scores Winky owned him
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Postby MadScott » Mon May 16, 2005 1:50 pm

I really don't know much about Taylor, but it sounds like he could give Hopkins a run.

Not going to hijack this thread but wanted to throw in that I just heard Roy Jones on Jim Rome and he said that he's ready to go back in the ring v. the winner of Tarver/Johnson(not sure if this is right but it's the second guy that knocked out RJ). He said that he doesn't fear them at all and will be better prepared to beat them this time. :-? Willie Mays playing for the Mets anyone?
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Postby DUKE » Mon May 16, 2005 2:05 pm

MadScott wrote:I really don't know much about Taylor, but it sounds like he could give Hopkins a run.

Not going to hijack this thread but wanted to throw in that I just heard Roy Jones on Jim Rome and he said that he's ready to go back in the ring v. the winner of Tarver/Johnson(not sure if this is right but it's the second guy that knocked out RJ). He said that he doesn't fear them at all and will be better prepared to beat them this time. :-? Willie Mays playing for the Mets anyone?

Yeah MS, I heard that interview as well... I too, fear having to see Roy look bad in the ring for a third (arguably 4th) time against one of those two fighters, who I believe are both good. I guess there's still a glimmer of hope though, that he could discipline and motivate himself enough to be good enough to redeem himself. I still remember seeing him get floored by Tarver in their second fight. The whole room got dead silent with shock. Sounds like Roy will come back though, from what I heard.
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Postby CC » Mon May 16, 2005 2:15 pm

My buddy is a huge Roy Jones fan, and when Tarver knocked him out, I made some quip. Within seconds I got smacked in the face. Hard.
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Postby DUKE » Mon May 16, 2005 2:19 pm

Canadian_Cheesehead wrote:My buddy is a huge Roy Jones fan, and when Tarver knocked him out, I made some quip. Within seconds I got smacked in the face. Hard.


Haha...My friend is the same way. I told him leading up to the fight, that Tarver was a guy to be reckoned with and he kept saying stuff like, "Roy will end him within' the first few rounds...He's pissed this time. Tarver has no chance." I didn't bet him on it, because I didn't want to be forced to root against Roy, but when I said, "I told you Tarver was better than you give him credit for" he didn't have much to say. I was pretty sad seeing Roy like that, but my friend looked like he was legitimately going to cry, so I quit trying to remind him. :-D
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Postby VIPER » Wed May 18, 2005 2:48 am

Might as well add to this since this topic is turning toward my homeboy RJJ!!

To start I have been watching and following Roy since his amateur days. I really don't know if Roy should come back, personally I think he should have hung them up after he won the heavyweight crown. I don't know if it's his age (I am sure it is) or the extra weight he is carrying these last few years, but he seems to have left the "style" of fighting that made him best "pound for pound" boxer for years. For example, when he fought James Toney and countless others they could not touch him. He used his unbelievable quickness to elude any contact. No one could touch him!! But for the last few years he has gotten into leaning on the ropes showing everyone he can take a punch etc. His lateral movement has almost stopped. His flurries are to infrequent when they used to be numerous and lightning fast. I told everyone before the first Tarver fight that Tarver would give him the best fight he has had since he turned pro and sadly, I guess I was right. Then the Johnson fight totally stunned me. I thought after the Tarver fight where he got knocked out he would surely turn back to what got him where he was, quickness, elusiveness etc. But, Johnson put an end to that hope. I also believe if he does fight again that he should drop down in weight to his more natural super middleweight class and try to lure Hopkins again.

Anyway, sorry for the ramble and the continued highjack but I could not help it . Here's hoping that if Roy does come back he finishes his career where he should have. ON TOP!!! }:-)
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Postby DUKE » Wed May 18, 2005 11:28 am

VIPER wrote:Might as well add to this since this topic is turning toward my homeboy RJJ!!

To start I have been watching and following Roy since his amateur days. I really don't know if Roy should come back, personally I think he should have hung them up after he won the heavyweight crown. I don't know if it's his age (I am sure it is) or the extra weight he is carrying these last few years, but he seems to have left the "style" of fighting that made him best "pound for pound" boxer for years. For example, when he fought James Toney and countless others they could not touch him. He used his unbelievable quickness to elude any contact. No one could touch him!! But for the last few years he has gotten into leaning on the ropes showing everyone he can take a punch etc. His lateral movement has almost stopped. His flurries are to infrequent when they used to be numerous and lightning fast. I told everyone before the first Tarver fight that Tarver would give him the best fight he has had since he turned pro and sadly, I guess I was right. Then the Johnson fight totally stunned me. I thought after the Tarver fight where he got knocked out he would surely turn back to what got him where he was, quickness, elusiveness etc. But, Johnson put an end to that hope. I also believe if he does fight again that he should drop down in weight to his more natural super middleweight class and try to lure Hopkins again.

Anyway, sorry for the ramble and the continued highjack but I could not help it . Here's hoping that if Roy does come back he finishes his career where he should have. ON TOP!!! }:-)

Roy claims that his problem was from going up so much in weight to make heavyweight, and then dropping all of the weight in such a short span. He claims that his body is now carrying the lighter weight much better now. Obviously, you have to take what an athlete says with a grain of salt, but there is something to be said about your body weakening after dropping weight like that. Ironically, that's what James Toney claimed after his loss years ago to Roy. He had to drop 60 pounds in 2 weeks! Roys instincts though, do seem to have suffered a bit.

By the way, Winky Wright is going to be interviewed on Jim Rome today, for anyone who cares.
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Postby MadScott » Wed May 18, 2005 4:19 pm

Very nice summary Viper. You are spot on about RJJ and his declining mobility. The trouble is, if he drops down in weight, the guys are only going to get quicker which doesn't bode well for his remaining skills. In his day, he truly was one of the most spectacular athletes I've seen box. He's in the Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler type class. I don't want to watch him get old in the ring.
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