Vick 4 Mayor wrote:i don't see how vick isn't in the top 5, if not #1. look at the falcons 2 seasons ago. they absolutely sucked when vick was out. vick comes back and they win 3 out of their 4 final games (think they had 5 wins that whole year), and their only loss was to indy when dan reeves was replaced in the middle of the week. just look at the falcons' record with vick and without him, do you think that the seahawks would go from playoff team to arguably the worst team without walter jones in their lineup? what about the vikings without culpepper? or the eagles without TO? the ravens without ed reed? broncos without champ? patriots without seymout? colts without marvin harrison? all of those teams would be mediocre at worst.
They win in spite of Vick. Look, the ESPN analysts spent a week just trying to justify putting Vick in the Pro Bowl, because he put up Quincy Carter type numbers this year. Yeah, he's fun to watch, but he doesn't do his job. He has arm strength, but no accuracy. He holds the ball away from his body in one hand when scrambling, making him prone to fumbling. Any high school QB should know enough to protect the ball, but a 4 year vet like Vick doesn't.
Not only that, but by doing this, he doesn't threaten run or pass when scrambling, making the job easier on the defense. Defenders hesitate and use caution against McNabb because he has himself prepared to throw even when stepping across the line of scrimmage, defenders loosen coverage on Randy Moss when they see Culpepper tuck the ball even if he's 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage, but Vick does neither and doesn't even protect the ball when scrambling.
I could post yet again statistical information showing how A) the Falcons defense collapsed in 2003, and B) that defensive collapses are in no way correlated to QB injuries, but I doubt given your screen name it'd have a chance of changing your opinion. So, make no mistake, Vick is not the sole factor for the difference of 04 and 03.
Vick's major problem is that he can beat poor defenses, but good defenses can beat him. It's simple, force him to throw. That's how any team beats Michael Vick, and it will kill Atlanta in the playoffs until he learns to throw or gets benched.