Vegas odds win/loss records for 2005

[tanner]

The Chargers W/L over/under is 8 victories, according to the Vegas lines. Washington was at 8.0 yesterday, but is now down to 7.5.
It seems they are bigtime DOWN on SD this year..for a team that went 12-4 in 2004, they're SB odds are 28-1....

The reason I'm asking, is that for the most part, the Vegas oddsmakers are almost always right.

it looks like they could be right about Chargers. While Washington plays one of the easiest schedules, the Chargers play one of the toughest.

anyone else keep an eye to betting lines in regards to this kind of stuff?
if I've got 2 wr's that I can't choose between for my starting lineup, I usually go with the guy who is in the game with the higher o/u final score. It generally means more scoring opportunities..I do the same with kickers, and I usually will not start a defense that plays in a game with a high final o/u.

The Chargers are at 8 wins o/u, thats a full 4 games worse than 2004..what does that say about Drew Brees, will he be able to build on last year's success, or did he overachieve? According to the oddsmakers, SD overachieved last year, and will fall back to the pack in '05.
Detroit's o/u is 8.5, so vegas is expecting a stellar year from them...does this mean that the fantasy values of players such as Joey Harrington has skyrocketed?
Houston's o/u is 7.5, or a mere .5 games better than 2004. Does vegas think we'll see more of the same old from the Texans, i..e, one of the worst offenses in the league? if so, how does that affect Andre Johnson's chances to have a breakout season ( 3rd year wr)
Cincy is status quo, 8 wins which is fine with me, I'll take another 1454 yards from Rudi, or another Pro Bowl year from Chad Johnson like last year.
I know its an inexact science to pay attention to the vegas odds when drafting players or putting in a starting lineup, just wondering if anyone else has any thoughts or experiences to share.


-Tanner

NFL 2005 Regular Season Wins - Team Must Play 16 Games
09-12-05 9:00 PM



Arizona Cardinals o7.5(-115) u7.5(-115)

Atlanta Falcons o9.5(even) u9.5(-130)

Baltimore Ravens o10.0(even) u10.0(-130)

Buffalo Bills o8.5(even) u8.5(-130)

Carolina Panthers o9.0(-145) u9.0+(115)

Chicago Bears o7.0(-105) u7.0(-125)

Cincinnati Bengals o8.0(-130) u8.0+(100)

Cleveland Browns o5.0(-110) u5.0(-120)

Dallas Cowboys o8.5(-110) u8.5(-120)

Denver Broncos o8.5(-140) u8.5+(110)

Detroit Lions o8.5(even) u8.5(-130)

Green Bay Packers o8.0(even) u8.0(-130)

Houston Texans o7.5(-105) u7.5(-125)

Indianapolis Colts o11.5(-130) u11.5+(100)

Jacksonville Jaguars o8.5(-120) u8.5(-110)

Kansas City Chiefs o9.5+(110) u9.5(-140)

Miami Dolphins o5.5(-160) u5.5+(130)

Minnesota Vikings o9.0(-145) u9.0+(115)

New England Patriots o11.0(even) u11.0(-130)

New Orleans Saints o7.5(-135) u7.5+(115)

New York Giants o6.5(-145) u6.5+(115)

New York Jets o9.5(even) u9.5(-130)

Oakland Raiders o7.5(-155) u7.5+(125)

Philadelphia Eagles o11.5(-120) u11.5(-110)

Pittsburgh Steelers o9.5(-140) u9.5+(110)

San Diego Chargers o8.0(-145) u8.0+(115)

San Francisco 49ers o4.5(-115) u4.5(-115)

Seattle Seahawks o9.0(-105) u9.0(-125)

St. Louis Rams o8.5(-110) u8.5(-120)

Tampa Bay Buccaneers o7.0(-130) u7.0+(100)

Tennessee Titans o6.5(-105) u6.5(-125)

Washington Redskins o7.5(-120) u7.5(-110)

[Tyr]

To be honest, the initial W/L O/U lines are about as iffy as it gets in the gambling world. The only betting week that's equally as uncertain (imo) would be the first week of the regular season.

The lines typically shape up as of the offseason progresses, by the time all is said and done, they're typically pretty accurate, but there's no need to raise an alarm at this point in time.

[footballfreak449]

Believe there is a Lines post somewhere for this kinda talk...

[Vick 4 Mayor]

the vegas's oddsmakers goal is not to be correct, so if they are it is 100% accidental, it is to make it so the casino makes money. if bets are evenly split on the over under, the casino will make money because of the commission. if the bets are lopsided one way, the casino stands to lose a lot of money if that way happens.

[Crafty]

San Diego Chargers o8.0(-145) u8.0+(115)

I think this tells you all you need to know about what most people think of this line. It's not even worth betting the over at this point. By the way, strength of sched or no, the Chargers are an improved team this year, and you'd be nuts to be the under as well.