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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:24 am

Juhlz wrote:Wow, not exactly patting Roy on the ass on his way out of the huddle are we fellas. Detractors who are Lions fans are particularly disturbing. Anyway, thanks for the input. I'll try and let him fall a little further next draft.
Bottom line, being a high school receiver coach myself, playbooks are heavily weighted toward the #1 receiver in the passing game. Roy will have MOST of the passing plays designed for him. The strong supporting cast should keep the double teams off of Roy. Now, we know rookie receivers rarely, sans Moss, make an impact and Charles is a supreme talent but hasn't played a full season. So, anyway, my glass is half full I hope it doesn't spill all over me.


I fully understand what you are talking about, and yes, Roy will be the starting flanker - unfortunately for fantasy fans, there is also lots of talk about each of the Wrs learning each role. Roy will not always be the flanker - CRog could step into that role often during games. Even Kevin Johnson could play there often as he has in the past for BAL and CLE. BMW is being taught all 3 main WR positions according to reports (Im not sure if this may stunt his development too - its gotta be hard learning 3 positions as a rook - but Im sure they are concentrating on the slot and #2 spot more than Flanker with him). This is the reason Roy's pricetag is too high - if talent were the only factor, then yeah, he'd arguably be a top 5-10 WR - but his situation indicates that even a 5th rd pick is expensive for him.

There are just too many options and this isnt IND where were going to see 50 passing TDs to accomodate all the pieces. Dont forget - they havent strayed from saying they still want a balanced offense.

Speaking of BMW - any other Lions fans still giddy we got him? As one of the worst redzone teams in the NFL the last few yrs, landing someone of that calibur was huge IMO. ;-D
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Postby bellybrother » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:28 am

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:Actually I think Roy is overrated right now and unless he falls a good couple rds in my drafts I doubt I would draft him.

Dont get me wrong - Roy is suprememly talented. His performance last yr was breathtaking at times. Some of his acrobatic catches would leave anyone watching slackjawed. You should see his behind the back, one handed grab form the spring workouts - unbelievable. But he is overrated in fantasy terms.

Why is he overrated? Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Kevin Johnson, Marcus Pollard, and Kevin Jones. All of them will affect Roy's production.

Roy only scored 3 TDs last yr once KJones became the fulltime RB in week 10.

Id much rather have CRogers in the 10th rd or later than spend a 5th rd pick on Roy.


I have taken Rogers in the 10th in every mock I've done this year. Great value if he doesn't break another collarbone.
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Postby moochman » Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:05 am

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:Speaking of BMW - any other Lions fans still giddy we got him? As one of the worst redzone teams in the NFL the last few yrs, landing someone of that calibur was huge IMO. ;-D


Not to hijack, but I can't think about this guy without thinking of what an impact he can make on 3rd down and in the redzone. Tell me how a huge #3 WR is going to be covered by anyone talented enough to stop him? Only Bloey could stop BMW from excelling in those situations.

Assuming that he isn't a mirage, of course.
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Postby thebigsmooth » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:39 am

i like roy. personally though i would not take him over javon if he signs. i had javon last year and he was a stud. as for what is so much better about garcia not much except he does not have happy feet like joey does. also he can go through his progressions unlike joey who locks in on one receiver and if he does check down it is always to someone out of the backfield for 3yrds on 3rd and 10
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Postby Bruschi » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:51 am

I don't want ti hijack the thread either, but I have Pollard as a TE sleeper this year. I remember how much Harrington used M Rihks at TE in 2003. West Coast is very TE friendly.

I also think R Williams is over-valued at top 10/15 and C Rogers i undervalued. Surprise surprise, I think M Williams will get injured and be a non-factor this year. Most rookies get injured because they haven't had time to get there bodies ready for NFL calibre playing.
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Postby Flockers » Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:31 pm

Roy Williams has all the talent in the world. The problem is, the Lions offense does too. There's so many options for Bloey; the only way he can suck is if he's doing it on purpose.

The Lions are going to spread the ball around a lot, and when you have a 3rd WR that is 6'5, I'd go to him all day, everyday.

Not to detract from this topic, but this is going to be an awesome division race this year. Detroit loaded up on offense, the Vikings on defense, and Green Bay - well they still have #4 as their signal caller.

I'm pretty pumped up for this one.
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