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Postby PACKman1144 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:59 am

I just go in picking a RB first round no matter what. Then i like to go from there with the "best player available" mentality. As long as there're making me quality fantasy point I'll take 'em. Normaly this startegy ends up going in round1.RB 2.WR 3.RB 4.WR/QB

Once drafting in a middle posistion i landed Ahman Green the first round, Randy Moss in the second, and Torry Holt in the 3rd,and Moss and Holt, of course each put up more points than my 2nd RB. Ths is why i don't always buy into taking a running back in the first and 2nd round. ;-D
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Postby johnnie2130 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:18 am

It does make sense and I appreciate everybody telling me their strategies.

So, If you get two RBs in the first two rounds and a QB in the third, all your WR will be second tier guys?


bagobonez wrote:I have things grouped into tiers. You can't really form a strategy until the draft has begun, and you are able to see which teams have which players.

For example, let's say here's how I have my tiers set up for RB and WR.

Tier 1 RBs
LT
Shaun
Priest

Tier 2 RBs
J.Lewis
Edge
McGahee
Deuce
Portis
Rudi
Barber
Domanick
K.Jones
Dillon
J.Jones

Tier 1 WRs
Moss
Owens
Holt
Chad Johnson
Walker
Harrison
Horn

Tier 2 WRs
Andre Johnson
D.Jackson
M.Clayton
H.Ward
R.Wayne
C.Chambers
A.Lelie
Roy Williams
D.Driver
I.Bruce
D.Mason
L.Fitzgerald

The reason I have these tiers is because I feel all the players in a particular tier are going to provide me similar results. For example, I don't see Torry Holt having a much better season than Chad Johnson. That's why they're in the same tier. But I see both players having much better seasons than guys like Donald Driver or Darrell Jackson. However I see Driver and Jackson having similar results.

Now, let's say my initial plan is to go RB in rounds 1 and 2, and then WR in round 3. So let's say for example I get Jamal Lewis and Kevin Jones in rounds 1 and 2. I'm targeting a WR in Round 3, but all of the WR's in my "top tier" have already been taken. Yet there are a ton of guys in my 2nd tier of WR's. So instead of reaching for Andre Johnson, maybe I'll take Culpepper or McNabb instead, knowing that i can get a similar guy to Andre later on, like Donald Driver for example, in Round 4.

Hope that makes sense.
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Postby Plindsey88 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:21 am

I try to stick with VBD (value based drafting).... I draft the most valuable player on the board at any given pick, and if, at the end, my roster is weak in one area and strong in another, I make trades to even things out....
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Postby Juhlz » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:28 am

Mercer Boy wrote:The best strategy is no strategy.

Draft for value at all times. The only thing you really should do is get one RB in the first three rounds - and probably two by the fifth.

Oh, and I would never draft a kicker or defense before the very end of the draft. ;-D


Isn't value drafting a stategy? :-?
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Postby johnnie2130 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:35 am

If you've picked a RB in round 1 and Moss or TO is there in round 2, you take either of those before taking a RB?
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Postby Plindsey88 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:40 am

johnnie2130 wrote:If you've picked a RB in round 1 and Moss or TO is there in round 2, you take either of those before taking a RB?


Depends on the RB's available.... I would take the following backs before Moss:

LT2
SA
Priest
Edge
Deuce
Jamal
McGahee
Portis

And I would take all of these backs over Owens:

LT2
SA
Priest
Edge
Deuce
Jamal
McGahee
Portis
Dom Davis
Kevin Jones
Rudi Johnson
Dillon
Julius Jones
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Postby klaxs258 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:11 pm

draft a running back first and just try to land best players avaliable till around the 7th round then start picking up sleepers

u might be able to wait to around the tenth u jus have to watch who people are drafting
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Postby johnnie2130 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:51 pm

My second round pick and TO is available, along with Portis, KJ, Ahman, Rudi, S. Jackson, Westbrook, L. Jordan, S. Jackson, C. Martin, Tatum...

Harrison, Holt, Horn, A. Johnson, C. Johnson, J. Walker are still there too.

I'm just trying to give an idea of the depth that's still there.

Should I pick TO or one of the top RBs? I drafted Duece in the first.
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Postby Kensat30 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:57 pm

My main suggestion to you in a 10 man league is to amass studs. I have found that WR is the best position to land studs for value because generally the top5 WRs are locked in stone and then often fall into the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Think of it this way, chances are you are not going to land 2 stud RBs with your first 2 picks no matter who you select. Injuries, busts, flukes, etc. make the top5 RBs shift year after year. And you generally need 2 absolute STUD RBs to win a 10 team league outright. Usually that is just not going to happen.

Now on the other hand if you manage to lock up 2 decent RBs and a STUD WR, it's gonna be a lot easier for you. I would not hesitate to take a WR like Randy Moss or Terrell Owens late in the first or early in the 2nd round because of this.

The greatest misconception of fantasy football is that you can only land decent RBs in the first 2 or 3 rounds. Every there is value to be found at RB if you select the right player. My strategy has been to stockpile as many starting RBs as you can and hope for the best. Guys like Kevan Barlow, Deshaun Foster, Michael Bennett, Duce Staley are falling well into draft because of poor past performances and injury issues. Guys like JJ Arrington, Cadillac Williams, Warrick Dunn fall in the draft because people are worried of their limited upside and other RBs cutting into their production.

Grab 2 of 3 of these guys and couple them with a first round RB and you are looking GOOD at the RB position. Did I mention that you can grab stud WRs in the process?
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If you really want to dictate how a draft plays out, snap up the studs at the WR position while everyone else goes RB. By the time the third round rolls around and your team looks like:

Alexander (1.03)/Harrison (2.08)/Chad Johnson (3.03), Moss(1.07)/Portis (2.04)/Horn (3.07), Deuce(1.06)/Owens(2.05)/Holt(3.06)...

Other owners will be stuck with the leftovers and risky bets at WR (Javon Walker, Andre Johnson, etc.) while you are free to pick up the leftovers at RB. If you are risk averse, perhaps you grab a stud TE in the 4th round and put off drafting your #2 RB until the fifth round. Then you can grab 2, 3, perhaps even 4 consecutive RBs and not have to worry about suffering at the key position.
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If the WRs don't fall, the RBs will. Grab a RB in the 3rd round and now you're looking at 2 solid RBs and a stud WR. Now if there is a stud TE in the 4th round, jump all over him....

It really just depends how your draft plays out and what kind of value falls, the main thing you need to keep in mind is to STAY FLEXIBLE and try to draft surething studs. Don't trap yourself into thinking you have to select a player at a certain position unless you absolutely have to. This should NOT occur within the first few rounds of a draft unless you try an unorthodox strategy (QB/WR, WR/WR). You have to take risks to win championships in smaller leagues IMO, drafting safe just gets you to the playoffs.
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Postby bellybrother » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:12 pm

Kensat30 wrote:My main suggestion to you in a 10 man league is to amass studs. I have found that WR is the best position to land studs for value because generally the top5 WRs are locked in stone and then often fall into the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Think of it this way, chances are you are not going to land 2 stud RBs with your first 2 picks no matter who you select. Injuries, busts, flukes, etc. make the top5 RBs shift year after year. And you generally need 2 absolute STUD RBs to win a 10 team league outright. Usually that is just not going to happen.

Now on the other hand if you manage to lock up 2 good RBs and a STUD WR, it's gonna be a lot easier for you. I would not hesitate to take a WR like Randy Moss or Terrell Owens late in the first or early in the 2nd round because of this.

The greatest misconception of fantasy football is that you can only land decent RBs in the first 2 or 3 rounds. Every there is value to be found at RB if you select the right player. My strategy has been to stockpile as many starting RBs as you can and hope for the best. Guys like Kevan Barlow, Deshaun Foster, Michael Bennett, Duce Staley are falling well into draft because of poor past performances and injury issues. Guys like JJ Arrington, Cadillac Williams, Warrick Dunn fall in the draft because people are worried of their limited upside and other RBs cutting into their production.

Grab 2 of 3 of these guys and couple them with a first round RB and you are looking GOOD at the RB position. Did I mention that you can grab stud WRs in the process?
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If you really want to dictate how a draft plays out, snap up the studs at the WR position while everyone else goes RB. By the time the third round rolls around and your team looks like:

Alexander (1.03)/Harrison (2.08)/Chad Johnson (3.03), Moss(1.07)/Portis (2.04)/Horn (3.07), Deuce(1.06)/Owens(2.05)/Holt(3.06)...

Other owners will be stuck with the leftovers and risky bets at WR (Javon Walker, Andre Johnson, etc.) while you are free to pick up the leftovers at RB. You can grab 2, 3, perhaps even 4 consecutive RBs and not have to worry about suffering at the key position.
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If the WRs don't fall, the RBs will. Grab a RB in the 3rd round and now you're looking at 2 solid RBs and a stud WR. It really just depends how your draft plays out and what kind of value falls, the main thing you need to keep in mind is to STAY FLEXIBLE. don't trap yourself into thinking you have to select a player at a certain position unless you absolutely have to. This WILL NOT occur within the first 3 rounds of a draft.

That's perfect. I couldn't have put it any better.
In my position in my money draft this year I pick 11th or 12th(I get 11th choice of position in a 12 teamer) and in mocks I've done I've been able to come out with the likes of Portis/T.O./Gonzo or Gates...... or Moss/T.O./Gonzo or Gates and have been very satisfied with the RB's that are available to me with the 4th, 5th and 6th round picks(since there's not much difference between my 3 and 4 picks). Obviously the Moss/T.O./Gonzo or Gates gambit is risky, but if you can land 3 RB's in succession like Cadilac/Dunn/Barlow, which I have been able to do then grab a QB in the 7th where Plummer, Hass, Brooks, Palmer have been falling and then add a coupla more RB's later(my targets have been Shelton and Duckett), you're in good shape.
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