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Postby bagobonez » Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:49 pm

My league awards no points for points allowed, unless it's a shutout, in which case you get 10 points. So if a team scores 3 points or 40 points, it doesn't matter, there are no points awarded or taken away.

Now having said that, with standard scoring, which is the better fantasy defense/special teams...

Carolina or Philly?
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Postby maddog60 » Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:08 pm

Under that scoring, I'd easily take Carolina. The Eagles defense has never had a shutout under Andy Reid. And Carolina has plenty of big play guys to put up sacks and INTs.
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Postby MadScott » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:06 pm

Man tough call here. Either is as capable as the other of giving a shutout, maybe Carolina by a nose their. As for sacks, safeties and TDs, I love the Carolina front 7 and the havoc they create, but with a healthy Kearse and that ball hawking secondary, I would probably lean Philly a bit. Add to that Philly plays the NFC West, I'd probably take Philly.

Must be hard to swallow for a Cowboys fan. :-b
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Postby Kensat30 » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:18 pm

I love Philly defense this year. This is the one D I would spring an early pick on(9th-10th).

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NYGiants X 2 - 2nd year QB prone to mistakes (week 14 playoff)
Cowboys x 2 - Drew "5 sacks a game" Bledsoe
Redskins X 2 - they're the redskins
49ers - ....
Raiders - goldmine?
Chiefs - toughest opponent on schedule
Chargers - 2nd toughest opponent on schedule?!?
Packers - Brett "2 INT per game" Favre
Broncos - Jake "3 INT per game" Plummer
Seattle - NFC West
Rams - Seen that o-line? (week 15 playoff)
Arizona - Warner? (week 16 championship)


Seriously, where are the tough matchups on this schedule? I'm seeing $$$ for the Philly defense in a sack/turnover weighted system.

I don't know if there has ever been a more money playoff schedule than this:

NYG @ Phi
Phi @ STL
Phi @ Ari
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Postby bagobonez » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:13 pm

Kensat30 wrote:I love Philly defense this year. This is the one D I would spring an early pick on(9th-10th).

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NYGiants X 2 - 2nd year QB prone to mistakes (week 14 playoff)
Cowboys x 2 - Drew "5 sacks a game" Bledsoe
Redskins X 2 - they're the redskins
49ers - ....
Raiders - goldmine?
Chiefs - toughest opponent on schedule
Chargers - 2nd toughest opponent on schedule?!?
Packers - Brett "2 INT per game" Favre
Broncos - Jake "3 INT per game" Plummer
Seattle - NFC West
Rams - Seen that o-line? (week 15 playoff)
Arizona - Warner? (week 16 championship)


Seriously, where are the tough matchups on this schedule? I'm seeing $$$ for the Philly defense in a sack/turnover weighted system.

I don't know if there has ever been a more money playoff schedule than this:

NYG @ Phi
Phi @ STL
Phi @ Ari


I did some math, and I don't have the actual numbers in front of me, but Carolina's opponents allowed like 600 combined sacks, and Philly's opponents allowed 550. Not a huge difference, but if we're talking about schedules here, i thought Carolina's schedule was pretty easy as well.

Plus you look at the additions Carolina made with McCree, Ken Lucas, drafting Thomas Davis, a healthy Kris Jenkins, etc.

I took Carolina, can you tell?
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Postby Azrael » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:04 am

Both have good defenses. I don't see how it really matters. The difference between which team earns a shutout and which doesn't is probably going to be luck.
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Postby Kensat30 » Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:08 am

bagobonez wrote:
Kensat30 wrote:I love Philly defense this year. This is the one D I would spring an early pick on(9th-10th).

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NYGiants X 2 - 2nd year QB prone to mistakes (week 14 playoff)
Cowboys x 2 - Drew "5 sacks a game" Bledsoe
Redskins X 2 - they're the redskins
49ers - ....
Raiders - goldmine?
Chiefs - toughest opponent on schedule
Chargers - 2nd toughest opponent on schedule?!?
Packers - Brett "2 INT per game" Favre
Broncos - Jake "3 INT per game" Plummer
Seattle - NFC West
Rams - Seen that o-line? (week 15 playoff)
Arizona - Warner? (week 16 championship)


Seriously, where are the tough matchups on this schedule? I'm seeing $$$ for the Philly defense in a sack/turnover weighted system.

I don't know if there has ever been a more money playoff schedule than this:

NYG @ Phi
Phi @ STL
Phi @ Ari


I did some math, and I don't have the actual numbers in front of me, but Carolina's opponents allowed like 600 combined sacks, and Philly's opponents allowed 550. Not a huge difference, but if we're talking about schedules here, i thought Carolina's schedule was pretty easy as well.

Plus you look at the additions Carolina made with McCree, Ken Lucas, drafting Thomas Davis, a healthy Kris Jenkins, etc.

I took Carolina, can you tell?


I view the NFC South as a much tougher division this year compared to the NFC East. The NFC East also drew the NFC West as their conference division and I think that gives them a huge edge, considering they play 2 of those 4 teams in the fantasy playoffs.

I agree that you really can't go wrong with Carolina, but I think Philly is going to be a difference maker come fantasy playoff time.
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Postby BrutallyHuge » Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:56 am

I would also go with Philly.

The chances of shutting out the hapless Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys are much greater than shutting out the Saints, Bucs, and Falcons.
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Postby Mookie4ever » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:43 am

Chalk up another vote for Philly.

Kearse makes the D-Line above average and Trotter improves the LBs. The stars of the team are the secondary though. Sheppard, Brown, Lewis and Dawkins may be the best group of D-backs in the NFL. Nobody will be able to throw against them but if the offence is as good as last year some teams will be forced to do just that in the 4th quarter which will lead to some big points for the Philly D.
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Postby dream_017 » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:57 am

I currently have Carolina as a slight favorite ahead of Philly in my rankings.

As for shutouts. There were a whopping...........4 last year.
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