This might be the same thing that aussie said...but just for fun, I pulled up Randall Cunningham's best full season stats:<pre>Season Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD
1990 PHI 16 91.6 271 465 58.3 3466 216.6 7.5 30 13 118 942 58.9 8.0 5 </pre>It said he didn't fumble at all...but I'm wary of that. I think Yahoo didn't have those stats for the first several years of his career...
Anyway, in a 25/4/-2 system, that would be good for 356.84 points. That's equivalent to what Manning scored last year in a similar system (360.08).
Here's Vick from 2002:<pre>Season Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD
2002 ATL 15 81.6 231 421 54.9 2936 195.7 7.0 16 8 113 777 51.8 6.9 8</pre>Vick's 2002 in that 25/4/-2 system is good for 257.54 points...not quite up to snuff with these Manning or Randall "career years." In a 25/6
/-2 system, Vick hit Manning-like numbers. But, Manning's numbers in a 25/6/-2 spring up to well over 400 points. I think you gave crossed-up stats, aussie...
I think it'd be safe to say that if Vick ever reached those Randall numbers, he'd be doing something special. I just don't see him throwing 30 TD's in a year. I don't think he'll ever run for 10+ TD's. I doubt he will pass for over 3200 yards. He will still run when he gets pressured. I think this passer first thing is hooey.
So in a sentence, I don't think he's going to be a #1 fantasy QB over the course of a season. However, he can be a #1 fantasy QB on a case-by-case basis - meaning that a few weeks a year he can outscore everyone. That's the only redeeming quality I see in having him. If you want to run a revolving QB system during the year, you have a good chance at scoring big when Vick goes against defenses that can't handle him.
I still think he's way too inconsistent a fantasy scorer to use as an exclusive #1. 80th position seems about right - 7th round would be fair value for a low-end #1 or a FQBBC type guy.
Just as a funny aside - I owned Vick one year...it must have been '02. Let me tell you, it was never fun.
I think I started him in every single bad week he had. I ended up using Tommy Maddox for most of the year.
And for you guys who played fantasy football in the early 90s - Cunningham must have been a GOD for a few years!