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Postby defianthart » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:27 am

BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- A 10-year-old boy was found dead, hanging from a tree, apparently killed while trying to get high by playing the "pass-out game," authorities said.

Dalton Eby may be the second Idaho child killed in recent months while playing a choking game, trying to cut off the oxygen supply to the brain to achieve a type of "high."

Dalton's mother reported him missing last Thursday when he failed to return home after visiting a friend. Search and rescue crews found his body Friday in a tree near his Island Park home, the Fremont County sheriff's office said in a statement.

There was nothing at the scene suggesting that anyone else was involved, the sheriff's office said.

"During the course of the investigation it was learned that there is a game that is common knowledge to many of our youth. A game known as the 'pass-out game,' the 'fainting game,' the 'tingling game,' or the 'something dreaming game' -- to name a few," the statement added.

Dalton's parents had never heard of the game, and neither had the parents of his friends, the sheriff's office said.

That was also the case three months ago in Nampa, where 13-year-old Chelsea Dunn was found dead after apparently hanging herself in her closet.

An investigation was inconclusive, but Dunn's family believes she died accidentally while playing the game, which was popular with a group of girls at her school. Six girls at the school were suspended for a day after a security camera videotape showed the seventh-graders choking each other in a hallway.

Though the so-called game is new to many adults, it's likely something that children have been doing for a long time, said Connecticut-based child psychologist Dr. Lawrence Shapiro, author of "The Secret Language of Children: How to Understand What Your Kids are Really Saying."

"That's scary," Shapiro said.

In addition to talking to kids about drugs and alcohol, parents should discuss other risky behavior, like the pass-out game, Shapiro said.

"Younger kids don't know that they can die from this, that it's a very dangerous activity," Shapiro said.

Nathan Hoiosen, a school resource officer with the Nampa Police Department, said youngsters think the choking game offers a safe buzz compared with drinking or doing drugs.

"You wish you could just take the kids and shake them and say, 'What are you thinking?"' Hoiosen said.


i hate to say it but if youre hanging yourself to get high... good riddance
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Re: Darwin strikes again

Postby Goatwhacker » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:44 am

defianthart wrote:
i hate to say it but if youre hanging yourself to get high... good riddance


I see your point but I'd be inclined to give a ten-year-old kid a break. A friend of one of my co-workers' kids (15 year old boy I think) accidentally hanged himself trying to get high. Yeah, he was a moron but it's sure tough on his family and friends.
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Re: Darwin strikes again

Postby defianthart » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:50 am

Goatwhacker wrote:
defianthart wrote:
i hate to say it but if youre hanging yourself to get high... good riddance


I see your point but I'd be inclined to give a ten-year-old kid a break. A friend of one of my co-workers' kids (15 year old boy I think) accidentally hanged himself trying to get high. Yeah, he was a moron but it's sure tough on his family and friends.


its a shame it happened, and im sure it was hard on the family and friends, but i have a hard time feeling sorry for a kid who thought to himself "hmmm i think im gonna go hang myself from that tree so i can be high for 3 minutes."
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Postby Tiki » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:08 pm

....Haven't they ever heard of a space monkey? Those are a way safer!
But RIP, thats a terrible way to die...
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Postby Guttpuppy » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:33 pm

Kids used to do something similar when I was young, they called them "High Risers". They would get themselves winded, hold their breath and then have someone bearhug them from behind putting all the pressure on the chest...the kid would pass-out and flop around on the ground for a bit. Noone ever really got hurt except for maybe from the fall to the ground.
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Postby Calyxes » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:50 pm

Not a good way to go. Strangle yourself just to get high? That does not sound like much fun.
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Postby Tiki » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:56 pm

Guttpuppy wrote:Kids used to do something similar when I was young, they called them "High Risers". They would get themselves winded, hold their breath and then have someone bearhug them from behind putting all the pressure on the chest...the kid would pass-out and flop around on the ground for a bit. Noone ever really got hurt except for maybe from the fall to the ground.
That's crazy GP! All of space money is you put minimal pressure on the throat, and you hold in for a little bit, you get really light headed, not as good as a bowl, but it's the second legal high. First being of course spinning around in circles for awhile ;-D
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Postby bagobonez » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:53 am

What about holding your breath while bending over until you can't hold your breath any longer, and then inhale deeply as you quickly stand up?

I've heard of some people dying that way.
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Postby Atog » Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:09 pm

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I have a bad enough opinion of humanity to be used to stuff like this, but wow. I'm truely stupifyed.
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Postby Redskins Win » Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:17 pm

Dalton's mother reported him missing last Thursday when he failed to return home after visiting a friend. Search and rescue crews found his body Friday in a tree near his Island Park home, the Fremont County sheriff's office said in a statement.

There was nothing at the scene suggesting that anyone else was involved, the sheriff's office said.


There had to be another person. This is something kid's would do to impress or be competitive about. It doesn't seem to be something you'd go off and by yourself.

We did something like this as kids but I recall leaning against a tree and another kid would put pressure on the neck by pushing toward the tree on the outside and then the whole pass out flopping thing would ensue.

This is a sad day for the kids parents and his friends
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