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Postby beerman » Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:19 pm

hey i wondering why guys like edge, mccallister and mcgahee are getting more praise then d davis? last year he has 1180yds with 13 td's and 69 rec for 596 yds 1td. I see d. davis having the same amount td's with more rushing yards imo.
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Postby Flux » Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:24 pm

I think throughout this offseason things have been swaying more away from Davis as people are realizing other RBs potential and the additions around them.

Originally this offseason, I thought Davis was overrated, but now that Deuce and Jamal and a few others seem to be getting more respect, I think Davis is falling to a fair value.

I do believe that McGahee is also overrated, but McAllister is in a great situation, where he has 2 new, and very good O-linemen on the team, a dumb downed offense and one that is focusing more on the running game.

Edge is a 'tweener for me. I think he will probably do about the same last year, but if he can learn to punch it in, in the redzone, he would have had many more TDs.

Davis im just not impressed with. I dont know exactly why that is, but I always shy away from him. Yes he puts up good numbers, but HOU doesnt seem to have tons of confidence in him as they continually are looking for replacements it seems like.
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Postby Battlecreek Dragon » Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:45 pm

DD is a bit of an injury risk. Everyone can get injured, but DD seems a little softer to me than Deuce or Edge.

As I see it, DD and McGahee are about the same... Great talents with huge potential, but several questions about whether they will live up to the potential. Questions like will Losman bring the offense as a whole down thereby hurting even the great McGahee? Or, as Flux mentioned, will DD lose favor as always seems to be floating aroung the rumor mill? Either one of these guys could have monster seasons, but they could also produce way less than projections.

Deuce and Edge seem (at least to me) much more likely to produce stats within a fairly narrow range of their projections.

So, for me it is a factor of relative value and risk. I consider Deuce and Edge to be slightly better picks, not necessarily because I think they will have better seasons that the other two, but because I think it considerably less likely that they will have worse seasons than the other two.
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Postby Vick 4 Mayor » Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:21 pm

Battlecreek Dragon wrote:So, for me it is a factor of relative value and risk. I consider Deuce and Edge to be slightly better picks, not necessarily because I think they will have better seasons that the other two, but because I think it considerably less likely that they will have worse seasons than the other two.


so you don't think deuce and edge will have better seasons than mcgahee and davis, but you think it is less likely that they will have worse seasons than mcgahee and davis? do you think that they will put up the exact same numbers?
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Postby cooleyhigh » Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:11 pm

Vick 4 Mayor wrote:
Battlecreek Dragon wrote:So, for me it is a factor of relative value and risk. I consider Deuce and Edge to be slightly better picks, not necessarily because I think they will have better seasons that the other two, but because I think it considerably less likely that they will have worse seasons than the other two.


so you don't think deuce and edge will have better seasons than mcgahee and davis, but you think it is less likely that they will have worse seasons than mcgahee and davis? do you think that they will put up the exact same numbers?


lower bust potential. Seemed fairly logical to me :-?
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Postby Mercer Boy » Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:00 pm

Absolutely right cooley. I would trust those "old standards" over guys that seem to have possible baggage.

I like D. Davis as a player...but him getting little piddley injuries every year makes me a little leery to have him as my top back. I think he'll do pretty good for the most part, though. He has great pass catching ability which would make him very valuable in a point per reception league. It also helps in the total yardage department.

I'd say that end of the 1st round area is pretty good for him. ;-D
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Postby Azrael » Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:24 pm

Deuce and Edge are safer picks but McGahee and DD have more potential. I think that sums it up. I'm a huge McGahee fan and I think he'll be a top fantasy back for years to come but Edge is in a much better offense and has a pretty friendly run schedule.

Tenn (2), Cle, Cinci, Seattle, SF, StL, Ari(week 17). Yes he has some tough ones against Pitt, Balt, Jax(2), SD but those other teams I've mentioned are an extremely poor conglomeration of run defenses. Considering Cle, Cinci, Seattle, SF, StL, and Ari aren't even in the division, you'd be hard pressed to find an easier group of teams to pick to run against.
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Postby Bruschi » Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:33 pm

I'm really glad to see this post as it relates direclty to a trade I am pondering. I have 2 offers for Deuce, one for Dillon + moving up 9 spots in first rnd and one for DDavis + moving up 7 spots in the first rnd. Since it is a keeper league, age does matter.

Even though DDavis is a great performer over the last couple of years, like most people in this forum I am having a hard time pulling the trigger on this trade.

I find the Dillon offer more tempting even though Davis's stats last year were really good and he projects as a top 10 back again this year.

It is really bugging me that I have this very illogical negative feeling about DDavis. Both Dillon and Deuce fumbled more than DDavis last year, they both were injured more than him, and yet I can't shake the bad mojo for DDavis
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Postby UNDEFEATED » Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:37 pm

I have owned DDavis from the instant he made sportscenter.

It tough to be a DD owner. When he is producing its a beautiful thing. 20+ points every week is lovely.

This year the roster goes like this:

DDavis:::5'9" 216lbs
J Wells...started one game and looked great. Had 17 points or sumtin' like that.
V Morency...rookie 5'11" 210lbs not much difference.
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DDavis will produce like a 1st rounder. Last season he had a thigh injury that kept his numebr down from weeks 3 -7. Still servicable.

But he played through it. And when he was close to 85-95% he was destroying the league. There was even on game where he rushed for a 60 yard TD that was called back.

Finally...If i had a choice between DEUCE, Jamal, Rudi, JJ, and DDavis.

I would go:

Deuce
DDavis
Jamal...he can't catch
Rudi
JJ

How can DDavis be underated when he is being selected in the 1st round?
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Postby Battlecreek Dragon » Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:55 pm

Vick 4 Mayor wrote:
Battlecreek Dragon wrote:So, for me it is a factor of relative value and risk. I consider Deuce and Edge to be slightly better picks, not necessarily because I think they will have better seasons that the other two, but because I think it considerably less likely that they will have worse seasons than the other two.


so you don't think deuce and edge will have better seasons than mcgahee and davis, but you think it is less likely that they will have worse seasons than mcgahee and davis? do you think that they will put up the exact same numbers?


No, that is not exactly what I said. I think it is entirely likely that Deuce and Edge will have better seasons, but it is not anywhere near a certainty. However, the point I was trying to make was that it seems more likely to me that DD & McGahee could have significantly worse seasons that predicted than it does that Deuce and Edge would have significantly worse seasons than predicted. I was trying to provide a possible explanation to "beerman" why DD was being devalued by many.
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