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Postby agchris02 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:24 pm

just curious as to why you had a completely differant thread, as to my criticism of yours, very similar to his:

mcGahee is too low

C Benson isnt even signed, much less playing, Id draft T Jones before him, as well as 25 or so other RB's

R Brown isnt signed and plays in miami, he needs to be lower

Dunn isnt worth that as long as TJ is in town too

Bennett and Foster are both too low, both are risks, but either could end up being a top 10 back and should be in the top 20

Bettis should be bumped up slightly with being the man for 4 weeks, maybe more

Taylor is WAY to low with the camp he is having, why in the world would you draft a backup like M Pittman, or a RBBC like Brown, before a known starter and potential stud in Taylor, particularly when you can handcuff him with toefield in the 12th round?
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Postby GreatestShowOnEarth » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:35 pm

i believe that Tiki Barber is too high and Dom Davis is too low. Brandon Jacobs has been having a great camp and it sounds as though he will be taking signifcant carries away from Barber, especially goaline carries. I like dom this year because the texans finally seem to have confidence in him. Before it seemed like they were always trying to replace him. now they got him a new deal and seem to be happy with him. The only concern that ppl have is injuries. He is a TD monster when healthy. I really dont think you can ignore that even though he is a slight risk.

I like Rudi this year as well. Some ppl dont believe in him but i like where you put him. maybe a tad high but nothing outrageous. I dont see how he cant have a big year.

I have Duece McAllister rated at 4. The saints have become more dedicated to the run and Duece is a stud rb when they give him carries. He also is a good wr out of the backfield, something that Lewis is not. Edge does not have enough oppurtunites to score imo to be considered a top 4 back. I have him right in front of jamal.

probably will think of a few things later but thats it for now. overall it looks like a real good list.
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Postby kanezfan11 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:40 pm

GreatestShowOnEarth wrote:i believe that Tiki Barber is too high and Dom Davis is too low. Brandon Jacobs has been having a great camp and it sounds as though he will be taking signifcant carries away from Barber, especially goaline carries.


I doubt that's gonna happen... same thing that they said with Dayne last year and Coughlin, from interviews on WFAN and elsewhere, definitely seems to have more faith in Tiki after a record-setting year from him with minimal errors.

On a seperate case, I like the spot you put Lewis in. I'm not even gonna start to argue against people that would rank him like 8 spots lower than that, I think they may have had a coma through his 2,000 yard season or something.
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Postby gold_steel » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:40 pm

I personally think Deuce is a little too high, My top 10 would be:

1. LT
2. Alexander
3. Holmes
4. Edge
5. McGahee
6. Jamal Lewis
7. Deuce
8. Kevin Jones
9. Portis
10. Johnson
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Postby kanezfan11 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:42 pm

gold_steel wrote:I personally think Deuce is a little too high, My top 10 would be:

1. LT
2. Alexander
3. Holmes
4. Edge
5. McGahee
6. Jamal Lewis
7. Deuce
8. Kevin Jones
9. Portis
10. Johnson


That's very close to what mine would be if I had to rank right now.
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Postby Dr. Duran Duran » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:48 pm

agchris02 wrote:just curious as to why you had a completely differant thread, as to my criticism of yours, very similar to his:

C Benson isnt even signed, much less playing, Id draft T Jones before him, as well as 25 or so other RB's

R Brown isnt signed and plays in miami, he needs to be lower


I'm basing this on the hopes that they will indeed sign and get the playing time a top 5 pick will likely see.

agchris02 wrote:Dunn isnt worth that as long as TJ is in town too


Dunn still put up 1,100 rushing yards and 9 touchdowns with Duckett there, so I have to respect him.

agchris02 wrote:Bennett and Foster are both too low, both are risks, but either could end up being a top 10 back and should be in the top 20


Injury risks and RBBC in both camps say that they don't deserve top 20 rank.

agchris02 wrote:Bettis should be bumped up slightly with being the man for 4 weeks, maybe more


I won't deny that. Bettis may very well be worth more than his current ranking.

agchris02 wrote:Taylor is WAY to low with the camp he is having, why in the world would you draft a backup like M Pittman, or a RBBC like Brown, before a known starter and potential stud in Taylor, particularly when you can handcuff him with toefield in the 12th round?


Again, a nice observation. I'll likely bump him up several spots.
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Postby agchris02 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:55 pm

Neither bennet or foster is an a RBBC -- both have the starting job, though both are injury risks, though i think bennett is more of one- -- some of fosters injuries have been mildly freakish, I still have him in my top 20
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Postby Dr. Duran Duran » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:06 pm

agchris02 wrote:Neither bennet or foster is an a RBBC -- both have the starting job, though both are injury risks, though i think bennett is more of one- -- some of fosters injuries have been mildly freakish, I still have him in my top 20


You honestly believe Mike Tice will, for the first time in his life, stick with one back? That would really be amazing. Bennett may be the "starter", but I guarantee you Moore, Moe and Fason will get carries. Bennett is too brittle to get the bulk of the carries, that much is proven. As for Foster, word is Shelton is going to get carries and who better to be a goalline back than Shelton? He was a goalline beast at Louisville.

Before I end this post, please don't take any offense to this, I'm just making a rebuttal. Your kind of criticism is exactly what I like to hear. ;-D
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Postby gold_steel » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:25 pm

agchris02 wrote:Neither bennet or foster is an a RBBC -- both have the starting job, though both are injury risks, though i think bennett is more of one- -- some of fosters injuries have been mildly freakish, I still have him in my top 20


Duran Duran is right, Bennet = no 3rd down carries and goal line chances taken away. Its been like this for a long time, now with Moore and Fason their running game is even stronger and more open to an RBBC.
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Postby agchris02 » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:05 am

Oh, rarely do i try to offend someone or take offesne -- and im VERY obvious when i do, so no worries, as to the M Bennet situation:

http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/5542278.html

(as to his motivation and current health)

http://news.footballguys.com/new/pp_blo ... d=BennMi00

(great site in general, has quotes from tice on it)

http://www.startribune.com/stories/503/5547200.html
(seems to say its bennetts job with moe williams occasionally spelling him)

right now moore is 3rd on the chart -- right now Im figuring bennett will get 22-28 carries a game,minimum, which should put him in the top 20

If he can stay healthy he's one of the fastest people in the world (seriously, look at his 100m times). Im not that worried with himm for a RBBC, just injury -- thats my impression though, ive been digging and cant find a quote for sure, we'll see as the preseason games pan out.
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