Santana Moss Anyone?

[Jedimindtric]

Can this guy be considered a sleeper this year? He has completely disappeared off any fantasy radar. He is number 1 in Washington and Ramsey is improving. A possible return to a 70 rec 1000 yard season?

[Philly Pride]

Can this guy be considered a sleeper this year? He has completely disappeared off any fantasy radar. He is number 1 in Washington and Ramsey is improving. A possible return to a 70 rec 1000 yard season?

Sorry, I had to laugh at that. Ramsey is a horrible QB, period, end story. The same way that the Ravens surrounding Boller with more targets won't work, the Redskins changing WR's won't work.

[Jedimindtric]

What I meant to say is Ramsey is LESS horrible than he was!

[Philly Pride]

Here's how my WR rankings work out:

34. Derrick Mason
35. Donte Stallworth (He's a true sleeper)
36. Plaxico Burress (Again, a true sleeper)
37. Brandon Stokley
38. Santana Moss

I don't know where Moss was in my ranks last year, but it had to be higher than that.

[Jedimindtric]

Moss was ranked like top 15 last year. Now he has disappeared. I know Washington stinks but he is the number 1 and someone has to catch the passes, right?

[Sp_Da_Man]

Agreed, any #1 WR on any team as bad as it is has some value.

1000 yards, 6 TD seems pretty obtainable.

[IRON CHEF]

Santana isn't that bad of a WR, but he just isn't in the right situation. Last year he was stuck in an offense that was content in handing itself to Martin and not letting its receivers go deep. This year he is in an even worse situation with a subpar QB and TD-deprived offense that made busts of Portis and Coles last year.

[Amazinz]

I think S. Moss showed last year that he cannot be the focal point of a passing attack. He would make a dynamite #2 on a good team. Coles is a better receiver than Moss and look what happened to him in Washington last year.

[Mercer Boy]

He would make a dynamite #2 on a good team.

Good call. I think it's very, very hard in this day and age to be a "Smurf receiver" (as they were called on ESPN yesterday) and be the top threat. Ward pulls it off in Pittsburgh, but they are still a run-first team. His top end is around 1100 yards and 8 TD's, of course that's also pretty near his low end. The top wideouts are all taller physical guys that can make all sorts of catches. They are the ones that can put up the 1200-1400 yard seasons with double digit TD's.

The shorter guys are mostly burners that basically go deep or make short, sharp cuts to make a living. That's why they are better suited as #2's...they try the long bombs every so often and the possession catches when the top guy is being hounded.

I wouldn't trust the Redskins pass offense, mainly because of Ramsey. Coles did decently last year, but he didn't rack up many TD's. Portis is the focus there, so Moss is probably a decent pick for a #3.

We still have yet to see how Smith will do as the top man in Carolina...but he's another in the Ward/Coles/Moss mold.

[jblank]

Agreed, any #1 WR on any team as bad as it is has some value.

1000 yards, 6 TD seems pretty obtainable.

I will bet you $5.00 that he doesnt even smell 1000 yds. In fact, I think 800 is about the best his owners can look for. They simply cannot pass, he isnt a good #1, and he is way too small to be "the guy".