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by **Cornbread Maxwell** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:26 pm

Boozer wrote:Cornbread, you're right. In my league, all TD's are worth 6 pts and I could have gotten any QB and still have the team I wanted so Manning was the most logical choice to me.
(Manning, McAlister, J Jones, S Davis, C Johnson, S Smith, L Coles, Gonzo, Akers, Vikings DEF(UGH!!))

Let me see - Your draft went:
1 - Manning
2 - Deuce
3 - CJohnson
4 - Julie Jones
5 - Tony Gonzo
6 - SSmith
7 - Coles

You sure did get some steals there. When your opponents allow for this to happen you can pretty much take Ryan Leaf in the first and still have a great team. Nice draft, but I would honestly look for better competition next yr - playing in leagues where this sort of thing happens can end up causing you to get into bad habits.

Bottom line - in standard leagues where the scoring is either 50pass yds per point and 6 per TD or 25 pass per point and 4 per TD, then Peyton is not a 1st rd pick. Of course it all depends on the projection though - if you project Manning to repeat what he did last yr, then he is basically the #1 overall player in every format - if you expect him to regress back to his career averages, then he is at best an early to mid 2nd rd pick. Value based calculators will show this.

by **maddog60** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:52 pm

Boozer wrote:Cornbread, you're right. In my league, all TD's are worth 6 pts and I could have gotten any QB and still have the team I wanted so Manning was the most logical choice to me.
(Manning, McAlister, J Jones, S Davis, C Johnson, S Smith, L Coles, Gonzo, Akers, Vikings DEF(UGH!!))

Manning - 1st round ADP
Duece - 1st round ADP
Jones - 2nd round ADP
Johnson - 2nd round ADP
Smith - 4th round ADP
Gonzo - 4th round ADP

Realistically, you shouldn't have been able to acquire one of Duece/Manning and Jones/Johnson. That would make your team dramatically different if the draft was competitive at all. I'd take Manning in first if I knew other drafters would slouch as much too.

by CC » Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:46 pm

bruuno2 wrote:Blah blah blah.You all are just jealous he was gone before your pick.

Yea, well you've obviously figured me out. No point in presenting a logical argument at this point.

by **Kensat30** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:12 pm

I would I would have drafted Manning.... Eli that is. He's a stud.

by **Free Bagel** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:43 pm

Boozer wrote:Thats a load of garbage. Manning is worth a first rounder, maybe not 1st pick but a first rounder. 28 TD's is nothing to be ashamed about, regardless of QB. He will throw at least 30 TD's.

Except for the fact that a large handful of guys picked 4-7 rounds later will all throw for 28+ TD's as well.

by **Pete123444** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:46 pm

I have him from 2 auction drafts. I should win both of em despite his subpar performance.

by **ScreamingWeasel** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:10 pm

Posted by me (a Manning owner) at the Racing Sausage FFL board here at the Cafe.
I still can't believe it.

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AP News Services **Flash**
Indianapolis - Sept 18, 2005
Hell Freezes Over

QB Peyton Manning @Home opener
13 of 28 ...
122 yards ...
0 TD ...
1 INT
Rating 44.0

FFL Points: 2

Satan to arrive momentarily.
All humans advised seek shelter.

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by **SwiperNoSwiping** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:44 pm

I am not panicking yet....at Baltimore and against Jacksonville...Two pretty strong defenses. I think Manning will get it going in the next few games..He has some decent matchups coming up.