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How many yards should equal 1 point for return yards?

20 yards
1
14%
25 yards
6
86%
 
Total votes : 7

Debate on return yards in my league

Postby jebatzel » Wed Sep 03, 2003 3:21 pm

Yahoo Private head to head league.

At the moment 30 return yards equals 1 point. Rushing yards are 15 yards = 1pt and Receiving yards are 20 yards 1pt.

We have come down to changing it to either 20 or 25 yards and possibly increasing the points for return touchdown from 6 to 8.

Here is what people are telling me in my league:

For 25 yards:

"Should be 25 yards needed for a point. But touch down returns should be worth 8 points not 6. That way if you run back for 100 yards and get a touch down you would get 12 points. This would be cool since it will not happen that often. If it is 20 yards per point I think that could be unbalanced, you might beat someone based on your return game which would be the suck."

"I think 25 yards should be good. The average return man will actually get quite a
bit of return yards in a game on kickoff returns, especially if he's on a crappy
team that allows a lot of scores.. ;) Plus really the return stat is more of a
bonus stat in my eyes, so I don't want it to have the same kind of weight or impact
on scoring that the other stats have, unless the guy does go the distance and score
a TD (in which case he'll rack up big yards+td pts anyways)."

And for 20 yards:

"I think 20 is a good place to put it. You've got to remember that we
drafted running backs and receivers, not returners -- so guys we have that
also return kicks probably won't be in the startling lineup just because
of their kick returning prowess. The only reason Antwaan Randle El and
Maurice Morris are on my roster, for example, are because they return
kicks -- but they still won't be starting just because as fantasy football
players we put more weight on running backs and receivers. That's just my
POV, though..."

vote is 3 to 2 for 20 yards at the moment and I haven't voted yet.

Hoping to fix debate this before the first game of the season tomorrow.

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Postby Challie » Wed Sep 03, 2003 3:29 pm

It's hard to get a league to reach a consensus.

If it was me, I'd stick with 6 pts for return TD and even go up to 30 or 35 yards needed for a point.

I'd hate to be in that league, outplay a guy but lose because some mediocre return man goes off for 18 points mainly on the strength of one lucky play. But that's just me.
... in my opinion, of course - but that should always go without saying.
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Postby jebatzel » Wed Sep 03, 2003 3:52 pm

all TDs = 6pts now

at the time of the draft 20 yards = 1 for everything.

at this moment rushing = 15, receiving = 20, and return = 30

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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Wed Sep 03, 2003 4:01 pm

Seriously, this is what you do:

Tell the league that rule changes should be addressed before the draft - not after. Once a league has drafted, the rules are set in stone. Period. They had the opportunity to view the rules before the draft, and to draft accordingly. There should be absolutely no debate on this issue. Changing the rules befoer the draft is perfectly fine - changing them after the draft is a huge Fantasy No No. It simply is not done.
Tell them that its an important debate for next yr, but this yr the draft went through already and you will play with the rules as posted.
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Postby Challie » Wed Sep 03, 2003 4:45 pm

I didn't see you already drafted. Absolutely agree with Cornbread.

You can't change these things once people have already drafted - NEVER. You can't open this can of worms.
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Postby Arlo » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:42 pm

Agreed - unless it's a unanimous agreement, changing rules after the draft can create lots of additional problems.
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Postby jebatzel » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:02 pm

created the league very last minute and didn't have time to discuss the points system.

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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:53 am

well, you have a full yr to discuss this for next yr, but for this yr I would strongly recommend you do not change the rules after the draft.

Good Luck on whatever you decide.
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Postby CTC » Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:32 pm

I agree.

Don't change rules post-draft.

And for the sake of the argument, I would set return TDs at 6 points, and 1 point for every 35-40 yards. What those in your league are proposing is unbalanced.
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I'd go even further...

Postby HD Boss » Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:58 pm

...and eliminate Defenses and Special Teams all together.!
Flipping a coin isn't a drafting startegy.
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