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Postby Plindsey88 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:32 am

maddog60 wrote:
Plindsey88 wrote:And what say you to those folks who drafted Terrell Owens at the end of the first round over the likes of Clinton Portis, Kevin Jones, and Ahman Green?


Personally, I would say they had all of those guys ranked too highly (and yes, this is according to rankings I had prior to the season). I had all of those guys listed as #2 quality RBs, so I would've never taken them in the 1st round.

Generally though, RBs in the first round is a solid drafting strategy. I think Moss is really the only non-RB that should be considered in the 1st, though I admit, if Peyton were there at the end of the 1st, I'd have been tempted to grab him.



Why Moss, when Terrell Owens is clearly the better WR option right now?
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Postby Plindsey88 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:34 am

204BC wrote:You guys are reading this the wrong way. I did not post this to say “I told you so”. I’m simply trying to drive home the point that a RB should always be taken first and that QB’s aren’t worth a first round pick.



I've never considered a QB in the first round.... Unless you start 2 QB's, there is no reason to even consider doing so.....

That said, there ARE WR's out there (Moss and Owens) who are solid first round picks.....
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Re: Lessons learned

Postby maddog60 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:50 am

Plindsey88 wrote:Why Moss, when Terrell Owens is clearly the better WR option right now?


In fantasy football, how do you figure that? Moss has 257 yards and 2 TDs, TO has 255 yards and 2 TDs, more importantly, Moss got a more even distribution of his points than TO, consistency is a definite plus in fantasy football.

Aside from that, the simple fact that in fantasy terms, Moss has been the most consistently top notch WR. His reliability, coupled with all the uncertainty surrounding TO heading into the draft is why I think only Moss deserved 1st round selection.
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Postby awwchrist » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:51 am

1. Moss
2. McNabb
3. Westbrook
4. Cadillac

2-0. Second in points.

Always take a RB with your first pick?
Jamal Lewis?
Dillon?
McGahee?

I've seen a lot of gripes from those owners. And I'm sure they'd disagree with you.
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Postby 204BC » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:00 pm

League #1

1st Rd – Edge
2nd Rd – R. Johnson
3rd Rd – C. Johnson
4th Rd – T. Brady

2-0
1st in points

League #2

1st Rd – P. Holmes
2nd Rd – T. Barber
3rd Rd – D. McNabb
4th Rd – H. Ward

2-0
1st in points

League #3
1st Rd – Edge
2nd Rd – C. Portis
3rd Rd – T. Holt
4th Rd – T. Green

1-1
3rd in points

Seems to work for me.
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Re: Lessons learned

Postby Goatwhacker » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:06 pm

204BC wrote:There is a valuable lesson to be learned from what we’ve seen this season, and it is this:

ALWAYS DRAFT A RUNNING BACK WITH YOUR FIRST PICK!!!


In general you're right, but I'd have to respond:

DON'T EXTRAPOLATE VALUABLE LESSONS BASED ON ONLY TWO GAMES!!!
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Postby maddog60 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:08 pm

Jamal Lewis?
Dillon?
McGahee?

I've seen a lot of gripes from those owners. And I'm sure they'd disagree with you.


Jamal Lewis I understand, but Dillon and McGahee have each had 1 good fantasy game and 1 bad one. Anyone very upset already is overreacting.

Corey Dillon is averaging 12 points per game, not great, but still serviceable numbers. McGahee had a 100+ yard game and one game he bombed in. I fail to see how they compare to Jamal Lewis, who hasn't hit 100 total yards yet.
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Re: Lessons learned

Postby Plindsey88 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:08 pm

maddog60 wrote:
Plindsey88 wrote:Why Moss, when Terrell Owens is clearly the better WR option right now?


In fantasy football, how do you figure that? Moss has 257 yards and 2 TDs, TO has 255 yards and 2 TDs, more importantly, Moss got a more even distribution of his points than TO, consistency is a definite plus in fantasy football.

Aside from that, the simple fact that in fantasy terms, Moss has been the most consistently top notch WR. His reliability, coupled with all the uncertainty surrounding TO heading into the draft is why I think only Moss deserved 1st round selection.



McNabb > Kerry Collins..... Period... End of story...
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Re: Lessons learned

Postby maddog60 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:09 pm

Plindsey88 wrote:McNabb > Kerry Collins..... Period... End of story...


Like you're going to get argument from me on that statement ;-)
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Postby Plindsey88 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:18 pm

204BC wrote:League #1

1st Rd – Edge
2nd Rd – R. Johnson
3rd Rd – C. Johnson
4th Rd – T. Brady

2-0
1st in points

League #2

1st Rd – P. Holmes
2nd Rd – T. Barber
3rd Rd – D. McNabb
4th Rd – H. Ward

2-0
1st in points

League #3
1st Rd – Edge
2nd Rd – C. Portis
3rd Rd – T. Holt
4th Rd – T. Green

1-1
3rd in points

Seems to work for me.



In all three of those leagues, it seems to me like your success is driven more by your non-RB's than by your RB's....

Edge - nothing special so far....

Rudi - nothing special so far....

Portis - nothing close to special so far....

Tiki - Mediocre week 1.... Good week 2....

Priest - decent week 1.... Mediocre week 2....


Chad Johnson - kicking ass and taking names....

Donovan McNabb - kicking ass and taking names after a rough outing in week 1....

Torry Holt - 125 in week 1.... 80 and a TD in week 2....


I hate to say it, but what is carrying your teams is your non-RB's.... Sure, Tiki had a big game on Monday, but I highly doubt he was your first round pick....

Looks to me like your first round picks were Edge and Priest, and I'm sorry, but neither one of those guys has really done anything to write home to mom about....

I submit that you would have been FAR better off taking Moss or Owens in place of either of those guys and picking up Caddy in round 3....

So, please, spare us the nickel's worth of free advice....
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