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Postby onnestabe » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:25 am

Matthias wrote:caveat emperor, my man. caveat emperor.


Did you mean "caveat emptor" - Latin for buyer beware? Because emperor isn't even Latin. The Latin word for emperor is princeps.
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Postby RyanTB » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:02 am

The Guru wrote:Clayton brings nothing to the table that a Keyshaun type WR can't do. There are plenty of WRs that can block well and run good routes.


Keyshawn Johnson has not had a good year since 1998 and 99 with the NY Jets. How can you tell me he brings just as much to the table as Micheal Clayton who had an outstanding rookie year, last year?
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Postby The Guru » Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:41 pm

RyanTB wrote:
The Guru wrote:Clayton brings nothing to the table that a Keyshaun type WR can't do. There are plenty of WRs that can block well and run good routes.


Keyshawn Johnson has not had a good year since 1998 and 99 with the NY Jets. How can you tell me he brings just as much to the table as Micheal Clayton who had an outstanding rookie year, last year?
Keyshawn is having a better year this year so far.
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Postby RyanTB » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:09 pm

The Guru wrote:Keyshawn is having a better year this year so far.


You mean with his 12 receptions for 165 yds compared to Claytons 15 receptions for 185 yds?

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Postby Amazinz » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:53 pm

RyanTB wrote:
The Guru wrote:Keyshawn is having a better year this year so far.


You mean with his 12 receptions for 165 yds compared to Claytons 15 receptions for 185 yds?

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No he probably means 165 yds and 3 TDs to 185 tds and 0 TDs. :-D
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Postby stupot88 » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:14 pm

NO this lsu grad is not a bust
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Postby GreatestShowOnEarth » Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:06 pm

Hes been fairly consistent. no he hasnt had any breakout games but he will come around. Caddilac has really cut into the Bucs passing game. Not that im complaining or anything....lol ;-D
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Postby The Guru » Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:50 pm

Amazinz wrote:
RyanTB wrote:
The Guru wrote:Keyshawn is having a better year this year so far.


You mean with his 12 receptions for 165 yds compared to Claytons 15 receptions for 185 yds?

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No he probably means 165 yds and 3 TDs to 185 tds and 0 TDs. :-D

yep.

td's tend to matter. ;-)
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Postby GreatestShowOnEarth » Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:03 pm

Clayton is a much more talented wr than Keyshawn. His situation is just much better imo. Keys got a QB that can air it while Clayton has a run first, run second, and run some more coach. If Clayton had a decent qb and had as many attempts as Key, Clayton would have better stats.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:58 am

GreatestShowOnEarth wrote:Clayton is a much more talented wr than Keyshawn. His situation is just much better imo. Keys got a QB that can air it while Clayton has a run first, run second, and run some more coach. If Clayton had a decent qb and had as many attempts as Key, Clayton would have better stats.


Actually, Gruden is known for a pretty balanced offensive scheme. He certainly likes to have his QBs pass it - at least thats whats happened in the past. This is the first time Ive seen a Gruden RB get so many actual handoffs. Chances are it will gradually return to being a balanced offense.

Also - I think people need to be very careful in saying Clayton is a more talented WR than Keyshawn. Key is extremely talented - it may not always show up in the boxscore.
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