How can you point to 3 games and proclaim consistancy? You're talking about a guy that, on his career, has been the epitome of inconsistancy versus a guy that has had one of the most prolific and consistent careers in recent memory.
Not to mention the fact that Indy wins the battle of quality of quarterback by just a tiny bit and Seattle is predominately a running team.
I'm glad you think the trade was bad, I think it was good and I think you're wrong.
It was a good trade, you traded two historically inconsistant player, neither of whom have the talent of Harrison, for Harrison who historically has been one of the more consistant WRs around.
You justified your bad trade by claiming that Harrison is "more consistent." Now you've been proven wrong. Over the course of his career, Harrison has been well-known for his inconsistency. He'll go weeks without a TD, then get 5 in 2 games. Jackson is more consistent this year than ever before because he is the clear #1 go-to receiver on that team. The numbers don't lie, but then again, you think the Colts and Seahawks have only played 3 games so far this year, so I can't really help you...
First of all I was talking about the first three games of the season, excluding today. 55 yards and a TD or 108 and 2 TDs both don't scream consistency.
Harrison hasn't missed having a 10+ TD or 1100+ recieving yard season season since 1999. Jackson has never had a 10 td season ever and has only had 3 1000+ yard recieving seasons, never going over 1200 yards. Add the drops (which have admittedly cleared up for now) and the nature of the Seattle offense and I really don't understand your argument.
On top of all that you bring up Harrison's "inconsistency" having monster games and then none at all. In 04 he had TDs in weeks, 13, 14, 15 and failed to score in only 5 games. Djax had 2 streaks of 3 weeks without a TD in 04 and another 2 week stretch, which was weeks 15 and 16. As a matter of fact he hasn't scored in the fantasy playoffs since 2002 and only scored one TD then. On top of all that he has the same "consistency" problem that you bring up, he had 2 TDs in 3 games in 03 (which was his highest TD production ever) which means that on the year he failed to score in 10 games total that season. In 04, which I don't place much weight on because he only scored 7 TDs, he failed to score in 10 games.
Those arguments really aren't valid regarding "consistency". They are merely a reflection of the fact that Harrison had more total touchdowns during those years, hence OF COURSE Jackson will have more games without a TD. Then again, Jackson's overall production is INCREASING while Harrison's has been steadily DECLINING. No doubt, Harrison will probably have more TDs again this year, but DJax is still more consistent because he's the only legitimate receiving target in Seattle whereas Manning tends to spread the ball around a lot. The numbers in the first 4 games tell the story.
By the way, I'm not even trying to say Jackson is better than Harrison, which is the point you're trying to disprove so you're refuting (or trying to refute) an argument that's not even being made. The point is, DJax + LJ was way too much for Harrison.
The only legitmate recieving threat in Sea? So Joe Jurevicious and Bobby Engram aren't legitimate? Jurevicious has the same ammount of TDs while Engram has 316 yards 60 less than Jackson. I think the spreading out argument is negated by the fact that Peyton should throw about 35 TDs this year while I think Hass will toss about 10 less. But you ceed my most meaningful point, Harrison should score more TDs this year with similar or better yardage.
Right now LJ is basically worthless, and in my league he isn't worth much to begin with. We don't start a flex and only start 2 RBs anyway. I don't like him going off on my bench and I would never start him unless Priest got hurt.
The truth is that unless Priest got hurt, he had almost no value to me and I didn't want to use up a roster spot (we only get 4) waiting, praying, for that to happen. Having a wasted roster spot during bye weeks when I've got spots to fill is a serious mistake.
On top of that the guy I traded to is unlikely to make the playoffs so near the end of the year, even if that happens, it won't matter. LJ is simply not very valuable with my league settings ect. This question is entirely valuation, you obviously would have drafted LJ in the 5th or 6th round where I picked him up off waivers. Also by making this trade I was able to clear roster space to pick up Delhomme off waivers so really it was like trading Djax + LJ for Harrison and Delhomme.
Gnu314 wrote:The only legitmate recieving threat in Sea? So Joe Jurevicious and Bobby Engram aren't legitimate? Jurevicious has the same ammount of TDs while Engram has 316 yards 60 less than Jackson. I think the spreading out argument is negated by the fact that Peyton should throw about 35 TDs this year while I think Hass will toss about 10 less. But you ceed my most meaningful point, Harrison should score more TDs this year with similar or better yardage.
If that was your most meaningful point, you should have said so as I readily "ceed" that. That's neither what you said, however, nor the point you were trying to make.
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by Gnu314 » Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:59 pm 
