I agree to a point. And my posts aren't to denigrate Farve -- he is a Hall of Famer. But I think the circlejerk that he alone has all of the essential qualities of winning is getting a bit much. I have seen a fair number of Pack games where it was because of his tendencies to do the stupid shuttle pass or chuck it up there, that they lost.
I don't think you can define a career by NOT winning a Super Bowl, but it certainly counts in your "plus column" if you do win one. for Farve, I'd venture to say it was because of him that they won. I think I feel the same way about Aikman too, I know they had irvin and emmit, but christ, he was good. I wouldn't say it was because of marino that Miami didn't win one -- if that makes sense.
I think the reason they say it about qb's is because its the harderst position to play, in most cases has a hell of a lot to do with the outcome of the game, and they are the team's leader. So with more glory, comes more responsibility.
Frankly, at this point -- its probably silly to talk about Farve. He is in the hall, he is a good qb still, but he isn't as good as brady, mcnabb or peyton at this time. He is exempt I guess.
It just sickens me when its like he is the only one who has overcome adversity on the field and off -- when some of his adversity is his own fault (painkillers, stupid turnovers). Great guy all in all, but its old.
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Yes, I agree. The fact is that, at this time, Favre is not as good a QB as manning, brady, or mcnabb. In his prime, he was as good or better than all of them. The thing is, we're talking about, most likely, four HoF QBs here. The problem is, Favre is older than the others and it's hard to compare them because they are essentially from different eras. While Manning, McNabb, and Brady are in the prime of their careers, Favres is almsot over. I agree that historically, Favre is the better QB right now. However, that is mostly because the others still have things to accomplish and games to play. We shall see in 7 or so years how their careers turned out.
I have decided that the difference in the 2 qb's manning and farve, the defining moment in Farve's Career was the superboel ring he has, Manning's defining moment is this.....
CUT THAT MEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol
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I think Favre still has it in him. He can sometimes look like a mastermind, sometimes look like a dork. He throws a bunch of stupid INT's but them some totally awesome TD's. Just remember that Monday night game Vs. Oakland last year, Heck that was one of the greatest QB preformances I have ever seen. And it was a day after his father passed away. I have great respect for Favre and I hope he keeps doing well. Now GB just needs to win...