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Scoring Help -- changing League settings

Postby Aboldy75 » Tue Sep 09, 2003 7:51 pm

Help -- I'm a commish in one of my leagues but I didn't pay attention to scoring. Can anyone give me some ideas for a good scoring system? We play 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K and 1 D. I'm looking for points/rush yard, points/rec yard, TD points, and then Defensive points. Please help as I don't like my leagues scoring system but want something that is still somewhat fair but what we have now seems to really seem low -- 100 rec yards is 2 points.

Here's my setup:

Passing Yards (50 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (20 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Yards (20 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2 Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)

Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Point After Attempt Made (1)

0 Pts Allowed (10)
1-6 Pts Allowed (7)
7-13 Pts Allowed (4)
14-20 Pts Allowed (1)
21-27 Pts Allowed (0)
28-34 Pts Allowed (-1)
35+ Pts Allowed (-4)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
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Postby Niners Rule » Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:02 am

I like our league's settings:

OFFENSE:

Offensive touchdown 6 points
Long offensive touchdown 8 points
(Run of 10 + yards, reception or pass of 40+ yards)

Quarterback 1 point per each 25 total yards
Running back/receiver 1 point per 10 yards total yards
(Total yards defined as yards passing, receiving and rushing – no return yardage)
Interception thrown (by any player) -3 points

Kicking:
Field goal 1 point + 1 point for each 10 yards rounded down
Extra point 2 points
2-point conversion 2 points

Missed Field Goal -2 points
Missed Extra Point -5 points

DEFENSES/SPECIAL TEAMS:

Shutout 14 points
1-7 points allowed 8 points
8-14 points allowed 6 points
15-21 points allowed 4 points
22-28 points allowed 2 points
More than 29 points allowed 0 points

Safety 6 points

1 point for each interception and fumble recovered.

Defenses get special team touchdowns – 6 points. A special team
touchdown by an offensive player on special teams is credited to
the franchise that has the defense/special team, not the
individual.
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Postby hawksfan896 » Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:19 am

It sounds like you might be using yahoo, and if that's the case, you won't be able to do the long runs/receptions increased value thing, but I think everything else will work. If you want one slightly less complicated though, here's mine (I'm a commish too):

30 yds passing = 1 pt
15 yds rushing/receiving = 1 pt
TD = 6 pts
INT thrown/fumble lost = -2 pts
FG < 50 yds = 3 pts
FG > 50 yds = 4 pts
We use individual defensive players, so I can't help w/ team D

In this system you can expect a good performance by a QB to get about 30 pts (3 TDs, 300 yds passing), from a RB/WR about 20 pts (2 TDs 100 yds), and kickers usually get 5-10. The only main difference I see in our league settings is this one favors the QBs more, but they sound pretty similar. You might be looking for a different direction altogether.
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Postby jeru » Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:34 am

Here's my setup:

Passing Yards (50 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (20 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Yards (20 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2 Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)

Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Point After Attempt Made (1)

0 Pts Allowed (10)
1-6 Pts Allowed (7)
7-13 Pts Allowed (4)
14-20 Pts Allowed (1)
21-27 Pts Allowed (0)
28-34 Pts Allowed (-1)
35+ Pts Allowed (-4)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)


What you have looks like the default Yahoo scoring system. 100 yards passing (by the QB) would be 2 pts, but 100 yards receiving would be 5 points.

Basically, the standard Yahoo system with the 50 yds/20 yds heavily emphasizes touchdowns. If your QB, WR or RB don't score TDs, you won't put up alot of points, so it can be very boom and bust under that kind of a system. It also makes QBs very low scoring, because of the penalties for turnovers. Every turnover a QB makes wipes out 100 passing yards, so you can have a QB kill you (ie Tom Brady and his -6 point score this week).

To balance it out more, you might want to change the yardage to 20 yards/1 point passing, 10 yards/1 point rushing or receiving. That puts less emphasis on the TD. Another idea would be to make receptions worth 1 point, which makes WRs more valuable and high scoring even when they don't score a TD.
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Postby Aboldy75 » Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:09 am

Thanks guys - this is the info I was looking for - I love this forum!
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Postby Transmogrifier » Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:37 am

But to change the settings mid-season you're going to have to get a unanimous vote by the league. Otherwise, it's not fair.
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Postby Challie » Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:17 am

Transmogrifier wrote:But to change the settings mid-season you're going to have to get a unanimous vote by the league. Otherwise, it's not fair.


Ditto.

Everybody drafted based on your scoring system. Your scoring system at deaft time really seemed to favor TDs. That would have affected my draft.

The new suggested settings/points seem better but I always think you just can't change rules in mid-stream. You open your league up to constant to a lot of controversy and bad feelings.

If you can get EVERYONE to agree to the change, then enjoy!

Good luck on the season.
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Postby sikoskul » Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:32 am

Repeat after me, "I will not make changes after the draft."

If you do make changes and its not unanimous, you're going to have some bitter ass friends in your league. Just wait it out this year and get opinions from your teams for what changes you could make next year. And be careful, making changes to the point system is the easiest way to screw up a league.
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