Cornbread Maxwell wrote:What about the NFC West - wouldnt they qualify to be in the NFC North/AFC East range - or does the presence of SEA raise the division?
The NFC West is 15-21 which is also worse than the NCF North - good call CBM.
So then why is so much made of the NFC North, is it just because the best team is not as good as the other best teams in those divisions.
Cornbread Maxwell wrote:What about the NFC West - wouldnt they qualify to be in the NFC North/AFC East range - or does the presence of SEA raise the division?
The NFC West is 15-21 which is also worse than the NCF North - good call CBM.
So then why is so much made of the NFC North, is it just because the best team is not as good as the other best teams in those divisions.
I think it has to do with a lot of things:
1) The extreme underachievment of the pre-season favorite (Vikings)
2) The Bears winning ugly (defense, etc.)
3) The injury bug ravaging the two contenders in the AFC East (Patriots/Jets) sort of giving them a, "mulligan"
I'm sure there are other factors as well.
"Don't let the fear of the time it will take to accomplish something stand in the way of your doing it. The time will pass anyway; we might just as well put that passing time to the best possible use."
Part of what makes the NFC North look a little less than pitiful when you look at their records is the fact that they get to play eachother so many times.... Let's look at the results when they are playing teams outside their own pitiful division:
Detroit (3-2): Victories against: Baltimore, Cleveland, and Arizona, whose combined record is 7-20..
Chicago (3-3): Victories against: San Francisco, New Orleans, and Baltimore, whose combined record is 6-21....
Minnesota (2-4): Victories against: New Orleans and New York, whose combined record is 8-10....
Green Bay (2-5): Victories against: New Orleans and Atlanta, whose combined record is 8-10...
Seems like the one saving grace of the NFC North teams is that, with the exception of Detroit, they have all gotten to beat up on New Orleans.... Of course, Detroit got to beat up on Arizona....
Plindsey88 wrote:Part of what makes the NFC North look a little less than pitiful when you look at their records is the fact that they get to play eachother so many times.... Let's look at the results when they are playing teams outside their own pitiful division:
Detroit (3-2): Victories against: Baltimore, Cleveland, and Arizona, whose combined record is 7-20..
Chicago (3-3): Victories against: San Francisco, New Orleans, and Baltimore, whose combined record is 6-21....
Minnesota (2-4): Victories against: New Orleans and New York, whose combined record is 8-10....
Green Bay (2-5): Victories against: New Orleans and Atlanta, whose combined record is 8-10...
Seems like the one saving grace of the NFC North teams is that, with the exception of Detroit, they have all gotten to beat up on New Orleans.... Of course, Detroit got to beat up on Arizona....
But couldn't the same be said for the AFC East or the NFC West as well? It'd be interesting to see what those records looked like.
"Don't let the fear of the time it will take to accomplish something stand in the way of your doing it. The time will pass anyway; we might just as well put that passing time to the best possible use."
Plindsey88 wrote:Part of what makes the NFC North look a little less than pitiful when you look at their records is the fact that they get to play eachother so many times.... Let's look at the results when they are playing teams outside their own pitiful division:
Detroit (3-2): Victories against: Baltimore, Cleveland, and Arizona, whose combined record is 7-20..
Chicago (3-3): Victories against: San Francisco, New Orleans, and Baltimore, whose combined record is 6-21....
Minnesota (2-4): Victories against: New Orleans and New York, whose combined record is 8-10....
Green Bay (2-5): Victories against: New Orleans and Atlanta, whose combined record is 8-10...
Seems like the one saving grace of the NFC North teams is that, with the exception of Detroit, they have all gotten to beat up on New Orleans.... Of course, Detroit got to beat up on Arizona....
But couldn't the same be said for the AFC East or the NFC West as well? It'd be interesting to see what those records looked like.
Sure it could.... But, at least in the AFC East and NFC West there are marquee teams who can still beat just about anyone in the league on any given Sunday.... New England has been decimated by injuries this year, but you still cannot count out the back-to-back Superbowl Champs.... And Seattle could very easily end up being the number 1 seed from the NFC in the playoffs... Were it not for the fact that every division is guaranteed a spot in the playoffs, there would be little to no chance that any team from the NFC North would make it, and there is every possibility in the world that the eventual division champion will finish at .500.... That's pitiful....
To use an NCAA analogy, the AFC East is like the Pac-10... They have one true marquee team that has won back-to-back championships.... The NFC West is like the Big-12... They have one team that is currently studly, while the rest falter... The NFC North is like the Big East, where all the teams suck pretty bad, but one of them will be granted a bowl bid merely because the spot has to be filled by somebody from the conference....
Of the Pack-10, Big-12, and Big East, I think it's pretty easy to pick out the loser conference....
Here is where you start telling me about UCLA and Oregon, and I'll admit my analogy isn't exactly dead on, but you get the point...
Let's end this debate by saying the NFC North is the greatest division ever in the history of mankind, and will win out every game this year, including the ones where they play each other, where they will be given a W regardless of the score, and the NFL will decide to change the Superbowl to all NFC North teams instead of AFC vs NFC and have the first ever Battle Royal Superbowl where all 4 teams take the field at once and try to stop anyone from scoring at all. The winner is then decided by popular vote by the people of Uruguay so it will be impartial.
Sixxgunn wrote:Let's end this debate by saying the NFC North is the greatest division ever in the history of mankind, and will win out every game this year, including the ones where they play each other, where they will be given a W regardless of the score, and the NFL will decide to change the Superbowl to all NFC North teams instead of AFC vs NFC and have the first ever Battle Royal Superbowl where all 4 teams take the field at once and try to stop anyone from scoring at all. The winner is then decided by popular vote by the people of Uruguay so it will be impartial.
C'mon now. You can't be serious.
We all know the people of Uruguay love Brett Favre. And that's just not fair.