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Postby Sixxgunn » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:14 am

Thou shalt not attribute thy own undefeated record to skill alone.

Thou shalt not draft Mike Vick before more conventional QB's, unless draft position dictates it.

Thou shalt not believe this is the year Fred Taylor goes injury-free.
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Postby octagon999 » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:18 am

maddog60 wrote:I think given this past year's draft we need to bring up:

Thou shall not draft anything but a RB with the first overall pick.


No. My Jamal Lewis pick would tend to argue against that.

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Postby footballchick23 » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:34 am

Thou shall not blame others' advice (that you asked for) for your team sucking badly in any given week!
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Postby Matthias » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:36 am

octagon999 wrote:
maddog60 wrote:I think given this past year's draft we need to bring up:

Thou shall not draft anything but a RB with the first overall pick.


No. My Jamal Lewis pick would tend to argue against that.

(Yeah, I'm still a very bitter, bitter man)


he did say, "first overall" and i don't think that anyone would argue that tomlinson was, and overwhemingly deserves to be, the first pick in every draft with shaun alexander as the second.

but i do agree with you that there is no such commandment of, "thou shalt not draft anything but an RB in the first round" because: jamal lewis, priest holmes, domanick davis, julius jones, ahman green, deuce mcallister, kevin jones, and to a lesser extent willis mcgahee, corey dillon, and clinton portis provide an argument to the contrary. whereas peyton manning has performed quite well.
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Postby Warhawk » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:41 am

octagon999 wrote:
maddog60 wrote:I think given this past year's draft we need to bring up:

Thou shall not draft anything but a RB with the first overall pick.


No. My Jamal Lewis pick would tend to argue against that.

(Yeah, I'm still a very bitter, bitter man)


Which brings up another subject...

Thou shalt not draft anyone formerly under house arrest with the first overall pick.
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Postby Matthias » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:45 am

although reuben droughns busted up what was formerly a fantasy football commandment of mine: "thou shalt never draft a denver running back after they leave denver."
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Postby zzViper » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:06 am

Thou shalt not draft TO during his second year with a team.

Thou shalt not draft Priest Holmes unless you are certain you can draft Larry Johnson as well.

Thou shalt keep updated NFL teams depth charts, and FF league WW report as thy constant companions.
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Postby black_hawk8888 » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:29 am

hastur wrote:
whoseyourdaddy12 wrote:hmm whereed blackhawk's list go


I loved that list by blackhawk, as you can see ;-D


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Obey all ye sinners.

Commandment #10 - Thou shall not draft Fred Taylor, for surely he shall teaseth the faithful with a great and wonderous performance, fleeing before his pursuers like a scalded cheetah, catching the ball and visiting the holy land of the endzone many times - before landing upon the injured reserve with a bruised taint. He shall be banished to the land of the “Day to Day”.

Commandment #9 - Thou shalt not draft Jamal Lewis, for surely by the end of the year he shall consummate the coke deal he hath starteth and wear striped the robes of the State with a very a long number branded across the front.

Commandment #8 - Thou shalt not draft Randy Moss, for being a Raider from the impure and polluted land called Oakland, is a scum bag of Biblical proportions and, like…Dude…he’s probably completely freakin’ stoned out of his mind and tokin' it up in the locker room as I sayeth this commandment.

Commandment #7 - Thou shalt not take the graven image of the Cardinal and their golden preseason record seriously. Drinketh NOT from the golden chalice of red koolaid peddled by thine local fishwraps, talking heads and sportshacks, for, despite playing the weakest, puniest and most pathetic division in the land, the Cardinals shall surely sucketh donkey member.

Commandment #6 - Forget not that the stadia of the great Bear, the fierce Bengal, the ferocious Lion are as colonies of lepers and draft from them sparingly.

Commandment #5 -Thou shalt not draft quarterbacks from among the sons of the distant lands known as the Big Ten, for they lie with their own mothers.

Commandment #4 - Thou shalt not spill thy manly seed on the sand like the Redskin, Viking or Packer for they are an abomination of mediocrity, despite the fervor of their true believers.

Commandment #3 - Speak in revered and hushed tones of THE GREAT ONE… BLESSED BE HE, Bill Belichick, for he has been anointed as the “official NFL genius of all geniuses”. His record at Cleveland, the home of the foul, smelly brown ones, shall be expunged and never mentioned in HIS presence. Thou needn’t throw thyself to thine knees in the presence of past “official NFL genius of all geniuses”, such as Bill “Spittle” Cowher and The Great White Tuna, Bill Parcells.

Commandment #2 - Thou shalt not play for silver shekels with thine friends and acquaintances known and unknown, for they are known to be penniless, rat bastards having deep pockets and short arms. So sayeth THE UNPAID!

Commandment #1 - Thou shall not darken the doorway of thy home field with the progeny of the sun devil, for surely they moan and whine like the newborn suckling pig (Todd Heap), murder thy teammate and seek a lesser sentence before his judge (Loren Wade), and shall impregnate thy favorite canine (JR Redmon) whilst stealing from your purse and throwing many an interception (Jake). THOU SHALL NOT HAVE ANY sun devil UPON THY ROSTER!

SO LET IT BE WRITTEN, SO LET IT BE DONE!
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Postby maddog60 » Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:09 pm

Matthias wrote:but i do agree with you that there is no such commandment of, "thou shalt not draft anything but an RB in the first round" because: jamal lewis, priest holmes, domanick davis, julius jones, ahman green, deuce mcallister, kevin jones, and to a lesser extent willis mcgahee, corey dillon, and clinton portis provide an argument to the contrary. whereas peyton manning has performed quite well.


In fantasy football, its usually not a good idea to base your opinion of a player's performance on injuries, save those that are known for being injured. Duece was doing quite well in fantasy football prior to his injury, same goes for Julius Jones.

Priest Holmes, it was conventional wisdom that you had to spend a 5th or 6th rounder to make sure you coupled him with Larry Johnson, and if you did so, you're probably not lamenting the pick as Priest did well enough, and LJ has been quite a replacement.

Also, very few if any people were suggesting Ahman Green in the 1st round, he was more of a mid to late 2nd rounder. Dominick Davis still average over 100 total yards a game, so is Willis McGahee, and from guys that were typical late 1st rounders, that's not a disappointment. Clinto Portis fits in with these guys, but he was more typically a 2nd rounder than a 1st.

Based off of this years, ADP if everyone followed the rule of drafting a RB first, we'd have:

LT - huge success
SA - huge success
Priest - success until injury, total success w/ LJ
Edge - huge success
Duece - success until injury
McGahee - success
DD - success until injury
Portis - success
Jamal - bust
KJ - bust
Barber - success
JJ - success until injury

It really seems that unless you can predict season ending injuries, or major ones in general, following the golden rule of a RB in the first round was a big help to building a successful team.
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Postby Matthias » Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:30 pm

maddog60 wrote:In fantasy football, its usually not a good idea to base your opinion of a player's performance on injuries, save those that are known for being injured.


rb's are a known injury risk. the number of snaps that peyton manning has missed, in his career, due to injury: one. so fine, you can say that an rb getting injured is a lottery, but i say that if you had drafted peyton, you don't have to play in it.

maddog60 wrote:Priest Holmes, it was conventional wisdom that you had to spend a 5th or 6th rounder to make sure you coupled him with Larry Johnson


yep. and the conventional wisdom was wrong as the drafts i was in lj was gone, at the latest, by the first 3 picks of the 5th round. if you had waited until then to get your handcuff, you were pooched.

maddog60 wrote:Also, very few if any people were suggesting Ahman Green in the 1st round, he was more of a mid to late 2nd rounder. Dominick Davis still average over 100 total yards a game, so is Willis McGahee, and from guys that were typical late 1st rounders, that's not a disappointment. Clinto Portis fits in with these guys, but he was more typically a 2nd rounder than a 1st.


but these are all 1st round possibilities: known rb starters in a non-rbbc situation. and my FWP from the 12th round has outperformed nearly all of them.

maddog60 wrote:Based off of this years, ADP if everyone followed the rule of drafting a RB first, we'd have:

LT - huge success
SA - huge success


undisputed. tomlinson and alexander, as i said earlier, were the all-world consesus top two picks.

maddog60 wrote:Priest - success until injury, total success w/ LJ
Edge - huge success
Duece - success until injury
McGahee - success
DD - success until injury
Portis - success
Jamal - bust
KJ - bust
Barber - success
JJ - success until injury


Priest - nobody who goes down with half the season left is a "success"
Edge - success
Deuce - 1 rushing game over 100 yards and 3 TDs on the season is not a success
McGahee - fairly consistent, although TD light. success is fine.
Domanick - 600 rushing yards & 4 total TDs; success a bit much
Portis - success? mediocre other than the game he rolled over SF
Jamal - bust
KJ - bust
Barber - success
Julius Jones - averaging 80 yards, 0.6TDs, and 0.2FUMs per game (pre-injury) mediocre and going to be bad the rest of the season; not a success. disappointment.

so, after the top two, 3 successes, 2 busts, 2 injury failures (plus ahman, who was as much a 1st rounder as tiki was), 1 mediocres, and 1 disappointment. if you want to keep drafting a rb-only in the first round, hey, be my guest... but don't call it a commandment. not after this year.
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