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Postby danleroi22 » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:29 am

BrutallyHuge wrote:
portisfan24 wrote:The time to discuss this is before the season. The rule has been there since the league started. Live with it.


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Right... live with it... and change the rule next year.

And if you ARE the better team... it shouldn't matter anyway, you'll be able to kill your opponent in the first round and then beat the other 9-2 team in the secnd round... getting to the championship... if you don't have faith you cna beat the 6th or 5th ranked team, when you are second, then you don't deserve the bye.
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Postby dream_017 » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:34 am

I agree and here is a post with some opinions from earlier this year.
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Postby Wizzle » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:35 am

My league breaks ties by 1. divisional record 2. H2H record 3. Overall points 4. coinflip

It sure would suck if your season came down to a coinflip but I don't foresee it ever happening.
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Postby Arlo » Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:09 pm

WesleyGator wrote:I'm just venting for the most part, I know it's a good way for a tie breaker, but I also know it has it's flaws as a tie breaker.

I completely agree. Unfortunately, every tie-breaker has its flaws. :-)
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Postby Plindsey88 » Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:15 pm

Total points is a better way to break ties than any head-to-head considerations... Total points is a much better measure of a manager's skill... I mean, you may have beaten someone head-to-head, but you also might have faced him the week he had 4 players on bye...
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Postby dream_017 » Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:18 pm

Plindsey88 wrote:Total points is a better way to break ties than any head-to-head considerations... Total points is a much better measure of a manager's skill... I mean, you may have beaten someone head-to-head, but you also might have faced him the week he had 4 players on bye...


So, should the playoffs be the top 4 teams(or however many you want) and just add up their scores for 2-3 weeks of playoffs to determine the champion? Why have records and play each other H2H in the first place?
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Postby FatFoot » Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:48 pm

That's apples and oranges, Dream_017. What he said is

Total points is a better way to break ties than any head-to-head considerations


He didn't offer a ringing endorsement of eliminating H2H play. H2H is what makes it relate to football, instead of track and field. Any given Sunday you have the option of beating another team... it also makes you take your bye weeks into consideration, and starts those cheesy-but-amusing rivalries. But total points is an indicator of who drafted better, or dodged injury, or used the WW better...
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Postby stepsinsc » Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:09 pm

dream_017 wrote:Why have records and play each other H2H in the first place?


the answer to your question was already posted before you asked it:

Mathias wrote:quite frankly, the week-to-week win/loss format is popular because it's interesting every week and it simulates a real nfl game. but it's not the best way to judge who does best in picking talent and matchups. someone might have a terrible team but just lucks out to catch strong teams on weak games


My roommate is in first place and UNDEFEATED in one of my leagues, but he's in 7th place (out of 12th) in points. Points scored is a better indicator of overall strength of a team, but it's a lot more interesting having H2H matchups.
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Postby CC » Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:23 pm

It's not like you are playing different players vs. different teams because of a strategy. The goal of fantasy football is to get the most possible points and to have more total points than your opponent.
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Postby dream_017 » Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:09 pm

stepsinsc wrote:
dream_017 wrote:Why have records and play each other H2H in the first place?


the answer to your question was already posted before you asked it:

Mathias wrote:quite frankly, the week-to-week win/loss format is popular because it's interesting every week and it simulates a real nfl game. but it's not the best way to judge who does best in picking talent and matchups. someone might have a terrible team but just lucks out to catch strong teams on weak games


My roommate is in first place and UNDEFEATED in one of my leagues, but he's in 7th place (out of 12th) in points. Points scored is a better indicator of overall strength of a team, but it's a lot more interesting having H2H matchups.


OK, so would you guys rather have a team that finishes 3-10 with the second most points in the league or 10-3 with a low total points and still in the running for the league title?

Under your argument the 3-10 team is the better overall team, but they are not going to get any money for their effort. I bet that goes far with the guys in your league, "yeah, you won the title last year but I finished 3-10 with the second most points, take that!! Hope you draft better next year, hahahahahaha"
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