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Postby jh2031 » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:52 am

Owens' suspension will be reduced

BY BOB GLAUBER
Newsday.com

November 23, 2005


An arbitrator is expected to rule later today that Eagles wide receiver Terrell Owens' suspension will be reduced to one or two games, and that he will immediately be reinstated. However, that won't be the end of the story.

A league source familiar with the Eagles' situation said this morning that the team is prepared to release Owens if he decides to return to the team and create a distraction.

If Owens' suspension is reduced, he would be permitted to return to the team to work out at the facility. However, the Eagles have stated they plan to de-activate him for the remainder of the season. Owens has said he wants to play for the Eagles again, but if they don't want him, he'd rather be released.

If Owens is released, he would be subject to the league's waiver system, where teams with the worst record would have the first chance to put a claim on him. It's uncertain which teams, if any, would claim Owens, who makes $3.75 million in base salary this season.



Looks like you might have wanted to hold on to T.O. or go and pick him up if this happens.
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Postby josebach » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:57 am

If they let him go to the facilities and he causes a distraction, couldn't they suspend him again for conduct detrimental to the team?

That to me seems like the best avenue for the Eagles to take.
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Postby Wizzle » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:03 am

josebach wrote:If they let him go to the facilities and he causes a distraction, couldn't they suspend him again for conduct detrimental to the team?

That to me seems like the best avenue for the Eagles to take.


Before I say this, I have to say I am not a supporter of TO.

That being said, just him being at the facility will cause a distraction, whether he does or says anything. That will not be grounds for suspension. Him winning in this case is the worst thing that could happen to the Eagles. Now they are basically either going to have to suck it up and let him play or release him because I'm not sure that they can ban him from being around the team unless they release him.
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Postby umphrey » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:09 am

Nice read -

Posted on Tue, Nov. 22, 2005

Sheridan: Just let T.O. go

By Phil Sheridan

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Release him. Release all of us.

Whatever magician/arbitrator Richard Bloch decides in the matter of Terrell Owens, the Eagles' immediate response should be to cut Owens. Put an end to this thing once and for all.

Release him. Release the rest of the players from having to deal with it. Release the coaches from having to waste another moment on it. Release the fans from having to hear one more word about it.

Bloch reportedly informed the Eagles and Owens' camp that he would have a decision by noon Wednesday. Never mind how he can know when he'll have a decision without knowing what that decision might be. Stage magicians - and Bloch apparently is a pretty good one - know all about building up to a big finish.

If the decision comes at noon, the Eagles should release Owens at 12:01.

You want reasons?

The Eagles will be best served by ending this sorry chapter in their history as soon as possible. This is not the first time I've written that, but maybe there is enough blood on the walls down at the NovaCare Complex for someone to realize how big a mess this is.

It is time to stop managing this thing, and mismanaging it at times, with an eye toward getting revenge on Owens for everything he's done to ruin this season. Short of kneecapping him, there's no way to get real satisfaction. So it's time to start thinking beyond Owens.

The more the Eagles hurt Owens at this point, the more they ultimately hurt themselves. Other players are watching now, around the locker room and around the league. They are watching, and they are forming lasting impressions about what kind of organization the Eagles are running.

Time to take the higher road. Time to rise above Owens and his ridiculous behavior.

Since May, the Eagles have been worrying about Owens' appearing to win this battle of wills. They don't want him to get what he wants - free agency, a new contract, the brightest spotlight made by man, whatever - by acting out.

They were willing to risk their 2005 season on that principle. Well, congratulations. You made your point and you're 4-6. Your quarterback, the target of Owens' most egregious comments, faces a public-relations challenge that is exponentially bigger than it was in May. Your otherwise classy attempt to keep a popular player, Hugh Douglas, around has been perverted to look like some kind of anti-Owens muscle job.

You decided to keep the most polarizing figure in the NFL around and - presto, as the Amazing Blocharini might put it - your fans, the media, and maybe your own locker room are now polarized.

If this is winning the battle with Owens, what would losing look like?

Bloch could rule that Owens' four-game suspension must be reduced. That means the Eagles would have to follow through with their threat to place him on the inactive list for the rest of this season's games. That would likely result in another grievance by Owens and another hearing.

Cut him, and that's that. No more media encampments at the Airport Marriott. No more four-hour ordeals for Andy Reid when he's supposed to be coaching his team. No more discussion and debate and waiting for the next ruling.

And what if the Eagles do get their way and they pay Owens to not play for the rest of the season? Does anyone believe that's the end of this thing? Rephrase that: Does anyone who is conscious believe that?

Owens will have his own show on ESPN by the weekend. Heck, the Bristol crew may just follow the pattern of recent years and give him his own channel: ESPNTO. And much of his programming day will be spent ripping the Eagles, ripping the Eagles and ripping the Eagles.

Cut him.

Because you can't make the argument that you can move on successfully without him while clinging to his rights like this, cut him.

Because it sends a message to the rest of the world that you're bigger than this and not petty and vindictive, cut him.

Because there is a locker room full of players sick to death of being asked about this embarrassing episode, cut him.

Besides, it may be more fun for everyone involved to see what happens next. Owens could be claimed by some 2-7 team and forced to play out the season in misery or create another disturbance in protest of the NFL waiver system.

And, if and when he does become a free agent, surely Owens and agent Drew Rosenhaus will forgo some big signing bonus because of their steadfast belief in the need for guaranteed annual salaries. Surely they weren't lying about that.

Call his bluff. Cut him. It's way past time.
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Postby Gorillaz2 » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:21 am

Bull; cutting him is the worst thing they could do.

He has value, they need to trade him in the offseason and make sure it's not to Dallas, New York, or Washington.

Handing TO to Dallas by cutting him and having them possibly win the Superbowl would completely screw over Philly.

The distraction is irrellevant at this point, they aren't going to win anything. So they have to hold onto him.
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Postby merc » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:31 am

Hell, they should just play him.... which would increase his trade value even more for the summer. And... if the Eagles do play him, they will win out, and they will make the playoffs... ;-7

I drafted TO, loved having him score big for me every week, then dropped him, and then picked him up again this past weekend.... and, he may be playing for someone as early as tomorrow if Dallas or Denver picks him up...
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Postby jh2031 » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:33 am

merc wrote:Hell, they should just play him.... which would increase his trade value even more for the summer. And... if the Eagles do play him, they will win out, and they will make the playoffs... ;-7

I drafted TO, loved having him score big for me every week, then dropped him, and then picked him up again this past weekend.... and, he may be playing for someone as early as tomorrow if Dallas or Denver picks him up...


I highly doubt he'll be in uniform tom. for Denver or Dallas because of the process he and other teams have to go through.
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Postby merc » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:44 am

Good Point... how does the waiver process work in the NFL? How long does each team have to make up their mind about picking up a player?

PS - seems like the waiver process takes 24 hours but when that 24 hours starts I do not know? If it starts as soon as a team cuts a player, then if the Eagles cut TO at 1pm today, he could be in uniform as a Cowboy or Bronco at 4pm tomorrow... maybe?

If I were TO, I'd be sitting in my Land Rover just outside the gates to the Eagles training facility right now... with my new locker name label in hand....
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Postby BrutallyHuge » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:51 am

Gorillaz2 wrote:He has value, they need to trade him in the offseason and make sure it's not to Dallas, New York, or Washington.

Handing TO to Dallas by cutting him and having them possibly win the Superbowl would completely screw over Philly.

The distraction is irrellevant at this point, they aren't going to win anything. So they have to hold onto him.


You dont have any clue what the waiver system is. TO just doesn't go to Dallas if the Eagles cut him.

Also, TO will NOT get traded. He has no value. The cap hit would be extreme and no one wants to pay that roster bonus.

He'll get cut after this season.
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Postby merc » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:58 am

You dont have any clue what the waiver system is. TO just doesn't go to Dallas if the Eagles cut him.
Why not tell us all how the NFL waiver process works?

I thought that once a guy is cut all the other NFL teams get 24 hours to put in a claim on him, and at the end of that 24 hours, the team with the worse record(highest waiver) gets him.

Is that not how it works?
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