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Postby gtgrad95 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:32 am

On an onside kickoff yesterday, Torry Holt recovered the ball after touching a Texan player. This is considered a fumble and a recovery. However, Yahoo did not give him the 3 points credit. All other sites I've looked at (including nfl.com) have Holt credited with a fumble recovery, which is correct. It's like somebody muffing a punt and a defensive player recovering; it's a fumble.

Anybody else wondering the same thing?
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Re: Yahoo: Torry Holt Fumble Recovery

Postby Atog » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:16 pm

gtgrad95 wrote:On an onside kickoff yesterday, Torry Holt recovered the ball after touching a Texan player. This is considered a fumble and a recovery. However, Yahoo did not give him the 3 points credit. All other sites I've looked at (including nfl.com) have Holt credited with a fumble recovery, which is correct. It's like somebody muffing a punt and a defensive player recovering; it's a fumble.

Anybody else wondering the same thing?


It might be because they only credit forced fumbles.
A muffed catch, etc. isn't "Forced"
Although it would be interesting if they changed the rules and credited the kicker as forcing the fumble.
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Postby BrutallyHuge » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:25 pm

1. The distinction between a fumble and a muff should be kept in mind in considering rules about fumbles. A fumble is the loss of player possession of the ball. A muff is the touching of a loose ball by a player in an unsuccessful attempt to obtain possession.

5. A muffed hand-to-hand snap from center is treated as a fumble.
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Postby PapaPark » Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:25 pm

The fumble recovery will go under DST
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Postby octagon999 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:13 pm

I don't believe they award points for recovering your own fumble. In this case he would be charged for fumbling, but not lose points for "lost" fumbles.
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Postby catch22 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:47 pm

octagon999 wrote:I don't believe they award points for recovering your own fumble. In this case he would be charged for fumbling, but not lose points for "lost" fumbles.


He's talking about the onside kisk, not the fumble, and recovery he had. Its certainly a grey area. You can advance a fumble but not a muff.....interesting.
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