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Postby beanoX3 » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:23 am

moonhead wrote:also the troopers were no longer clones. they were just chumps that started joining up. so they were no longer genetically engineered soldiers. for the most part. god how geeky am i?

Still, stormtroopers were supposed to be the best of the best. Even had a big academy on Carida that was supposed to be like the equivalent of graduating from Westpoint or something. And the 501st clone trooper regiment that Vader used to wipe out the Jedi Temple is supposed to have continued to exist afterwards, except that the regiment was now filled with stormtroopers instead of clones. Supposed to have the reputation of being the best stormtrooper regiment in the Empire. So much for consistency, huh?

In any case, Lucas kinda screwed up a lot of little details like that with his prequels. :-C



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Postby SeaWolf » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:33 am

beanoX3 wrote:In any case, Lucas kinda screwed up a lot of little details like that with his prequels. :-C


If you do a prequel, you will more than likely screw something up. I'm a Trekkie and Enterprise screwed up a lot of Star Trek "history" and I'm worried about the new movie. doing the same. :-o
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Postby dgan » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:08 am

Their recruiting was just awful, though.

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Postby m16a » Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:37 am

dgan wrote:Their recruiting was just awful, though.

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Postby moonhead » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:01 am

beanoX3 wrote:
moonhead wrote:also the troopers were no longer clones. they were just chumps that started joining up. so they were no longer genetically engineered soldiers. for the most part. god how geeky am i?

Still, stormtroopers were supposed to be the best of the best. Even had a big academy on Carida that was supposed to be like the equivalent of graduating from Westpoint or something. And the 501st clone trooper regiment that Vader used to wipe out the Jedi Temple is supposed to have continued to exist afterwards, except that the regiment was now filled with stormtroopers instead of clones. Supposed to have the reputation of being the best stormtrooper regiment in the Empire. So much for consistency, huh?

In any case, Lucas kinda screwed up a lot of little details like that with his prequels. :-C



How's that for geeky? :-b


you know what else i love? the fact that they have all this armor on. apparently can't see out of the helmets that provide no protection. because a whack on the head from an ewok and a stormtrooper is out cold. why wear all that stuff if it doesn't do any good? the elite red guard was the coolest, though.
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Postby treat24 » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:02 am

moonhead wrote:
beanoX3 wrote:
moonhead wrote:also the troopers were no longer clones. they were just chumps that started joining up. so they were no longer genetically engineered soldiers. for the most part. god how geeky am i?

Still, stormtroopers were supposed to be the best of the best. Even had a big academy on Carida that was supposed to be like the equivalent of graduating from Westpoint or something. And the 501st clone trooper regiment that Vader used to wipe out the Jedi Temple is supposed to have continued to exist afterwards, except that the regiment was now filled with stormtroopers instead of clones. Supposed to have the reputation of being the best stormtrooper regiment in the Empire. So much for consistency, huh?

In any case, Lucas kinda screwed up a lot of little details like that with his prequels. :-C



How's that for geeky? :-b


you know what else i love? the fact that they have all this armor on. apparently can't see out of the helmets that provide no protection. because a whack on the head from an ewok and a stormtrooper is out cold. why wear all that stuff if it doesn't do any good? the elite red guard was the coolest, though.


I always thought the same thing... why do they get knocked out so easily!!!
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Postby m16a » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:09 am

Well, tbhere are a number of things that I must address. First of all, the fact is many of the generic stormtroopers were crap. Legions like the 501st were EXTREMELY efficient and deadly. So that is where the Ben Kenobi reference comes from. Secondly, the stormtrooper armour, unlike the phase two clone trooper armour(episode 3) was designed to deflect blunt trauma, shrapnel, some explosives and glancing blaster hits. The helmet was a weak spot because it housed a lot of the advanced componetry. Also, the Imperial guards(red guys) where probably the closest thing the emperor had to dark jedi defenders. They were skilled fighters trained by handpicked former fighters of the emporer.(they are bested by skilled jedi and the droid body guards of general grievous)
Thats just a brief run down.

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Postby moonhead » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:13 am

m16a wrote:Well, tbhere are a number of things that I must address. First of all, the fact is many of the generic stormtroopers were crap. Legions like the 501st were EXTREMELY efficient and deadly. So that is where the Ben Kenobi reference comes from. Secondly, the stormtrooper armour, unlike the phase two clone trooper armour(episode 3) was designed to deflect blunt trauma, shrapnel, some explosives and glancing blaster hits. The helmet was a weak spot because it housed a lot of the advanced componetry. Also, the Imperial guards(red guys) where probably the closest thing the emperor had to dark jedi defenders. They were skilled fighters trained by handpicked former fighters of the emporer.(they are bested by skilled jedi and the droid body guards of general grievous)
Thats just a brief run down.

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the emperor had dark jedi. "the emperor's hands". like mara jade. they weren't completely trained, but they were force sensetive/novices. they were closer to jedi than were the imperial guard.
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Postby m16a » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:15 am

moonhead wrote:
m16a wrote:Well, tbhere are a number of things that I must address. First of all, the fact is many of the generic stormtroopers were crap. Legions like the 501st were EXTREMELY efficient and deadly. So that is where the Ben Kenobi reference comes from. Secondly, the stormtrooper armour, unlike the phase two clone trooper armour(episode 3) was designed to deflect blunt trauma, shrapnel, some explosives and glancing blaster hits. The helmet was a weak spot because it housed a lot of the advanced componetry. Also, the Imperial guards(red guys) where probably the closest thing the emperor had to dark jedi defenders. They were skilled fighters trained by handpicked former fighters of the emporer.(they are bested by skilled jedi and the droid body guards of general grievous)
Thats just a brief run down.

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the emperor had dark jedi. "the emperor's hands". like mara jade. they weren't completely trained, but they were force sensetive/novices. they were closer to jedi than were the imperial guard.


I know that. But in the strictest sense, they weren't his body guards. The hands and other dark side adepts(Ie jerec, gorc, yun) were minions in a sense. They did his bidding and didn't really defend him as bodyguards
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Postby beanoX3 » Wed May 02, 2007 7:17 am

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