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Postby RyanTB » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:28 pm

Sixxgunn wrote:How many other rookie QB's accomplished what he did?


Alot......because he didn't accomplish anything. The Bears D and running game did. Ben Roethlisberger was a good rookie QB that comes to mind. NOT Kyle Orton.
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Postby VaderFin » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:35 pm

Kyle Orton? Baaahaaaahaaaahaaaa :-D
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Postby flotsamnjetsam » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:41 pm

VaderFin wrote:Kyle Orton? Baaahaaaahaaaahaaaa :-D


LOL. I think that's what the ROY voting panel thought as well!
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Postby bagobonez » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:49 pm

Was Willie Parker a rookie? If so, he was just as deserving as Caddy.
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Postby VaderFin » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:51 pm

bagobonez wrote:Was Willie Parker a rookie? If so, he was just as deserving as Caddy.



Not a rookie.
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Postby Vanter » Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:16 pm

This was FWP second year.

I think that they got it right with ROY going to Caddy.
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Postby da1chipo » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:15 pm

Kensat30 wrote:If only Kevin Jones had worked out as well as Caddy, I might be looking good in Dynasty.


&*%$% Kevin Jones. Wasted a second round pick. And a third on TO (who at least won me some matchups). :-t

Good job by Cadillac, whom I traded after week one for Clinton Portis.
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Postby Sixxgunn » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:35 am

RyanTB wrote:
Sixxgunn wrote:How many other rookie QB's accomplished what he did?


Alot......because he didn't accomplish anything. The Bears D and running game did. Ben Roethlisberger was a good rookie QB that comes to mind. NOT Kyle Orton.


So name the other ones who won as many games as he did. He did what he had to do to make the team win. Isn't that the job of the QB? As for the Dilfer reference, there is a HUGE difference there. Dilfer was an established vet, while Kyle was a ROOKIE. Not too many rookies can come in and handle that kind of pressure and not destroy their team. Let's see who was worse than Kyle Orton this year:

Brett Favre----Future HOFer
Kerry Collins--Stellar offensive players
Michael Vick---League poster child
Drew Brees----no explanation needed
Drew Bledsoe--experienced vet
And most of the other teams in the league as well.

You'll say, all those guys had a better year than Orton and I'll say, show me the wins. Tom Brady was a guy that rarely put up stunning numbers, but he got wins. I can recall a couple of sub-100 yd games from Brady that they won. That's all that matters. Don't blow this up into a Brady/Orton comparison thing because it isn't. That was just an example of mass thinking. I think what a guy doesn't do is just as important as what a guy does do. And what he didn't do this year was huge. I'm not starting a fight for the sake of argument, I just feel that it was a gross error in judgement not to at least have gotten some consideration (maybe not win it, but consideration), considering the amount of wins generated by a team that was predicted to be 32nd in the NFL, and not expected to get more than 3 wins by many, including myself. I'm off my soapbox.
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Postby VaderFin » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:56 am

If Orton is so great that must make Rex Grossman even greater cause Orton is riding the pine in the playoffs. :-?
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Postby BrutallyHuge » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:04 am

Lay off the huffing, Sixxgunn.

Orton wasn't that good. They even benched his crappy butt. Defense + Running Game Won them games. If a QB stands there and throws for 120 yards a game and lets his RB and DEF do all the work, he doesn't deserve ROY consideration.
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