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Postby giants! » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:08 am

So far there has been 8 coaching moves with one vacancy (kc) already filled up.

Mike Tice (MIN)- I do not like this firing. Earlier this year, I supported firing him. However, the 6-2 end to the season with the injuries they had is remarkable. All you have to do to see why Tice should have stayed is look at the reactions of the players to his firing. Darren Sharper, Koren Robinson and Mewelde Moore among others were irate when hearing about his firing. Possible Future- offensive coordinator in dallas, philadelphia

Mike Sherman(GB)- A lot of people disagree with his firing, but I think this is the right move. Sure he had injuries, but the fill ins played very well. Samkon Gado did as well as ahman green could have done. Antonio Chatman, David Martin, and Al Harris all had suprising years. Yet, Sherman could only lead his team to a 4-12 record. Possible Future- head coach in New Orleans, St. Louis

Jim Hasslet(NO)- He definitely needed to be fired. Hasslet has not won a playoff game during his tenure with all the talent that he has. During his tenure he had a team consisting of Aaron Brooks, Deuce McCallister, Donte Stallworth, Joe Horn, Laroi Glover, Dale Carter, and Michael Lewis to return kicks. That alone merits multiple playoff wins. Possible Future- out of NFL

Dom Capers(HOU)- Also deserved to go. His tem, while not talented, should have won at least 6 games. To win only 2 is horrible and is an immediate cause for firing. Possible future- Def Coordinator for New England or New York Giants

Mike Martz (STL)- St Louis clearly had to go in a new direction. Martz took over the greatest show on turf, yet couldn't win a super bowl. Also, health concerns cemented his fate in st louis. Possible Future- Coach of Vikings

Dick Jauron(DET)- Didn't do anything as coach of the lions toward the end of the year. Hes a defensive specialist who favors running to passing. Possible Future- Def Coordinator in New England, Washington

Dick Vermeil (KC)- chose to retire. He was a great coach and turned Priest Holmes from backup to superstar. Also, won a superbowl with St. Louis and appeared in one with Philadelphia. Possible Future- out of NFL for good

Herm Edwards (NYJ)- horrible move for the jets. Edwards has led his team to three playoff appearances in the past 5 years. Also, a master of discipline as he led the Jets to commiting the fewest penalties multiple times during his tenure. His time management was not the best, but the team still played for him and genuinely wanted to win for him. Future- in KC
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Re: Review of Coaching Moves

Postby onnestabe » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:21 am

giants! wrote:Jim Hasslet(NO)- He definitely needed to be fired. Hasslet has not won a playoff game during his tenure with all the talent that he has. During his tenure he had a team consisting of Aaron Brooks, Deuce McCallister, Donte Stallworth, Joe Horn, Laroi Glover, Dale Carter, and Michael Lewis to return kicks. That alone merits multiple playoff wins. Possible Future- out of NFL


Not true - he actually coached the Saints to the first and only playoff win in franchise history.

Also, I am not so sure that his future is out of the NFL. I think he can handle an NFL coaching job. The fact is, the Saints are a poorly run organization, and the problems start at the top. Haslett deserved to be fired, yes, but I don't know that anyone could have succeeded in New Orleans.

About a month ago, Haslett asked for a long term extension and full control of football operations. He sees what the fans see: the players he has are talented, but none of them play well together. If we are going to succeed, some of the power in the orgagnization has to be given to the head coach so that someone who knows football can lead the franchise. Unfortunately, that will never happen because Benson is a power-hungry fool.

I can't believe he fired Randy Mueller because he made a great trade to get rid of Ricky's crazy a$$!!
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Postby BrutallyHuge » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:28 am

Herm Edwards isn't out yet.

Haslett will not be out of the NFL.

Lions | Team to talk with Haslett
Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:48:30 -0800

Updating previous stories, the Associated Press reports former New Orleans Saints head coach Jim Haslett has been invited to Detroit to interview for the head coaching job currently held by interim coach Dick Jauron. "I'm looking forward to hearing what they have to say," Haslett told the New Orleans Times-Picayune. "I think it's important to weigh all my options."


Raiders | Haslett an option for coaching position
Wed, 4 Jan 2006 12:50:15 -0800

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports former NFL coach Jim Haslett is an candidate for the Oakland Raiders' vacant head coaching position.


Vikings | Team talks to Haslett's agent
Thu, 5 Jan 2006 07:03:47 -0800

The Pioneer Press reports fired New Orleans Saints head coach Jim Haslett's agent Peter Schaffer has spoken with the Minnesota Vikings, but no interview has been set up. "They're going to interview some initial candidates, and they'll move forward from there," Schaffer said.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:54 am

I was going to say - regardless of what us fans think, Haslett is one of the most sought after HC options going right now. He not only will remain in the NFL, but he will be a HC in 2006.

Also, giants!, did you purposefully leave out Mooch?
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Postby michaelavelli » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:06 am

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:I was going to say - regardless of what us fans think, Haslett is one of the most sought after HC options going right now. He not only will remain in the NFL, but he will be a HC in 2006.

Also, giants!, did you purposefully leave out Mooch?


Agreed. Haslett is a pretty hot commodity right now.

I've said this on another thread, but don't you think it sounds like Herm kinda forced his way out of New York? He kept asking for an extension, all that stuff was leaked during the season about the KC job, plus the fact that the Jets are probably the 2nd least desirable place to be right now with the cap and pennington mess.

Also, there's no way Capers is going to be the NE DC. there's a reason why Belichick promotes from within. They don't want to have to have someone learn their system from scratch.

I agree pretty much with everything else you say. I don't like Tice has a HC, but it def. was an awkward time to fire him.
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Postby onnestabe » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:07 am

Does anyone else see a scenario in which the Saints get Tice and the Vikes get Haslett? Hopefully B4P hasn't gotten rid of his old avatar...I may have use of it in the future. ;-D
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Postby Dan Lambskin » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:10 am

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:I was going to say - regardless of what us fans think, Haslett is one of the most sought after HC options going right now. He not only will remain in the NFL, but he will be a HC in 2006.

Also, giants!, did you purposefully leave out Mooch?


i just hope it's not with the Lions. really wish we had a shot at Herm Edwards. they at least need a discilpinarian in there

I dont see Mooch coaching next year, but if he does i could see him as a good fit in GB.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:17 am

Dan Lambskin wrote:i just hope it's not with the Lions. really wish we had a shot at Herm Edwards. they at least need a discilpinarian in there

I dont see Mooch coaching next year, but if he does i could see him as a good fit in GB.


But the thing is - Haslett is actually considered a disciplinarian type of coach. I agree with your sentient though - I would prefer Herm Edwards too because I perceive him to be the kind of coach DET needs.
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Postby bdrotoronto » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:20 am

I'll just add a blurb here re: a coach that didn't get fired, but the GM got canned and it was actually the best decision the team could've made. Buffalo's choice to fire Tom Donahoe, but keep Mularkey (for now) is the best move I've seen them make in at least three years.

Contrary to much opinion here, Mularkey wasn't the problem with the Bills. Donahoe was. The Bills fought hard for Mularkey last year to rebound from an 0-4 start and nearly make the playoffs. Mularkey also had JP Losman stuffed down his throat by the front office this year; he actually fought hard to win this year by using Holcomb as his QB for many games instead of Losman, which made the front office look bad, but which earned respect from his players and got them two or three wins they probably wouldn't have gotten otherwise. The defence only collapsed this year after Takeo Spikes went down, who was the heart of that unit. Donahoe was responsible for bringing in a rookie head coach when he came in (Gregg Williams), and when that failed chose another rookie coach to replace him (Mularkey). He's also the one who TRADED UP in the '04 draft specifically so they could 'steal' JP Losman, which visibly irritated Drew Bledsoe, and then let Bledsoe go for nothing in the off-season so they could just hand the team over to Losman, who had never proven anything, and still hasn't. Their drafting has been really unspectacular too, with the sole exception of taking a chance on McGahee in the 1st round when the rest of the league was afraid to.

Ralph Wilson was visibly pissed at Donahoe at the press conference yesterday. He basically admitted he was embarrased at the Bills' performance the last five years (i.e. the time Donahoe was around), and promised to take a more active role in the team and never let the GM be President of the team ever again. Mularkey gets to stick around for now, regardless of who the GM is. He'll be on a short leash for sure if he doesn't win next year, but at least this time Wilson finally woke up and figured out what the cancer was that's been continually plaguing this team the last several years. :-t
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Postby giants! » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:38 am

Cornbread Maxwell, I didn't include mooch because he was fired a little while ago and I was only going through the recent moves. I shouldv'e included vitt and has turner been fired?

Onnestabe, I was not aware that the saints had won a playoff game under the tenure opf haslett. Sorry.
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