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Postby Redskins Win » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:37 am

This might get heated, but it is the off season for me now so I don't care.

Supreme Court Upholds Oregon Suicide Law

By GINA HOLLAND
The Associated Press
Tuesday, January 17, 2006; 10:23 AM

WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court, with Chief Justice John Roberts dissenting, upheld Oregon's one-of-a-kind physician-assisted suicide law Tuesday, rejecting a Bush administration attempt to punish doctors who help terminally ill patients die.

Justices, on a 6-3 vote, said the 1997 Oregon law used to end the lives of more than 200 seriously ill people trumped federal authority to regulate doctors.

That means the administration improperly tried to use a federal drug law to prosecute Oregon doctors who prescribe overdoses. Then-Attorney General John Ashcroft vowed to do that in 2001, saying that doctor-assisted suicide is not a "legitimate medical purpose."

Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the majority, said the federal government does, indeed, have the authority to go after drug dealers and pass rules for health and safety.

But Oregon's law covers only extremely sick people _ those with incurable diseases, whom at least two doctors agree have six months or less to live and are of sound mind.

Tuesday's decision is a reprimand of sorts for Ashcroft. Kennedy said the "authority claimed by the attorney general is both beyond his expertise and incongruous with the statutory purposes and design."

"The authority desired by the government is inconsistent with the design of the statute in other fundamental respects. The attorney general does not have the sole delegated authority under the (law)," Kennedy wrote for himself, retiring Justice Sandra Day O'Connor and Justices John Paul Stevens, David Souter, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and Stephen Breyer.

Roberts and Justices Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia dissented.

Scalia, writing the dissent, said that federal officials have the power to regulate the doling out of medicine.

"If the term `legitimate medical purpose' has any meaning, it surely excludes the prescription of drugs to produce death," he wrote.

The ruling backed a decision by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which said Ashcroft's "unilateral attempt to regulate general medical practices historically entrusted to state lawmakers interferes with the democratic debate about physician-assisted suicide."

Ashcroft had brought the case to the Supreme Court on the day his resignation was announced by the White House in 2004. The Justice Department has continued the case, under the leadership of his successor, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

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Postby The Balanced Man » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:45 am

Very Interesting...

"Roberts and Justices Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia dissented."

Those three are going to stick together a lot. Add in Alito too, they will be an inseperable block of votes.

Only 4 non-conservative votes left after O'Conner leaves :-o :~(

And Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and Scalia as an undividable block on any issue.

That all being said, I'm surprised this vote went the way it did, I thought it would go the other way, but I'm glad it went the way it did.

Yea, I'm a total dork and totally facinated by anything dealing with the Supreme Court. :-] So sue me (pun intended)
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Postby knapplc » Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:05 am

What business does the government have telling a person how and when they choose to die? I'm no advocate of suicide, but I'm less of an advocate of the government - federal, state or local - telling me how and when I can end my life.

The "Land of the Free?" It seems less and less like that every year...
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Postby Homeless » Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:05 am

State law should never have been challenged on this issue. Way to go Supreme court for upholding!
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Postby Redskins Win » Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:56 pm

knapplc wrote:What business does the government have telling a person how and when they choose to die? I'm no advocate of suicide, but I'm less of an advocate of the government - federal, state or local - telling me how and when I can end my life.

The "Land of the Free?" It seems less and less like that every year...

Yeah, I'm of the opinion less federal government. But what is the limit, how can that line be defined? I'm all for eufanasia and assited suicide, I'm also for abortion and eating meat. ;-D
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Postby MadScott » Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:43 pm

Redskins Win wrote: I'm also for abortion and eating meat. ;-D
8-o

Not that the two are interrelated.....at least I hope that wasn't the insinuation.
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Postby Redskins Win » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:33 pm

MadScott wrote:
Redskins Win wrote: I'm also for abortion and eating meat. ;-D
8-o

Not that the two are interrelated.....at least I hope that wasn't the insinuation.


Nah, those am just be em things most people have something against. The only baby meat I'll eat is veal mmm yummmm ;-D

I'd also like to get one of those baby seal skin coats how lovely ;-D
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Postby moonhead » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:38 pm

Redskins Win wrote:
MadScott wrote:
Redskins Win wrote: I'm also for abortion and eating meat. ;-D
8-o

Not that the two are interrelated.....at least I hope that wasn't the insinuation.


Nah, those am just be em things most people have something against. The only baby meat I'll eat is veal mmm yummmm ;-D

I'd also like to get one of those baby seal skin coats how lovely ;-D


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Postby SeaWolf » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:36 am

MadScott wrote:
Redskins Win wrote: I'm also for abortion and eating meat. ;-D
8-o

Not that the two are interrelated.....at least I hope that wasn't the insinuation.


As long as he is just eating the meat he doesn't have to worry about abortion. :-b
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Postby PACKman1144 » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:38 am

Not good. No one has the right to take their own life, that is murder. I hate federal government intervention too felllas, but this is so sick and distugusting that there is no way it should be protected by the constitution. ;-7
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