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Postby knapplc » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:40 am

PACKman1144 wrote:Not good. No one has the right to take their own life, that is murder. I hate federal government intervention too felllas, but this is so sick and distugusting that there is no way it should be protected by the constitution. ;-7

So let's prosecute all those guilty of suicide! Seriously, if you want to take your own life and you do it in a way that's not going to physically hurt someone else, how can that be illegal?

Are you saying that the government should be able to tell people when they can die? How is that their business?
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Postby PACKman1144 » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:46 am

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PACKman1144 wrote:Not good. No one has the right to take their own life, that is murder. I hate federal government intervention too felllas, but this is so sick and distugusting that there is no way it should be protected by the constitution. ;-7

So let's prosecute all those guilty of suicide! Seriously, if you want to take your own life and you do it in a way that's not going to physically hurt someone else, how can that be illegal?

Are you saying that the government should be able to tell people when they can die? How is that their business?


It should not be legal for a man to make his living by killing people. Ii may not be in a painful way but that's what it is. I don't believe it is our job to decide when we die, I just don't.

And no, I do not think the government should tell you when to die, I do not think that other people should be able to either.
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Postby Redskins Win » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:51 am

The government wants everyone to live so they can collect taxes. That's it and that's why they want control, TAXES.
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Postby knapplc » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:53 am

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PACKman1144 wrote:Not good. No one has the right to take their own life, that is murder. I hate federal government intervention too felllas, but this is so sick and distugusting that there is no way it should be protected by the constitution. ;-7

So let's prosecute all those guilty of suicide! Seriously, if you want to take your own life and you do it in a way that's not going to physically hurt someone else, how can that be illegal?

Are you saying that the government should be able to tell people when they can die? How is that their business?


It should not be legal for a man to make his living by killing people. Ii may not be in a painful way but that's what it is. I don't believe it is our job to decide when we die, I just don't.

And no, I do not think the government should tell you when to die, I do not think that other people should be able to either.

First of all, let me say that I agree with you - suicide is awful and I'm 100% against it.

And I'm not so sure I'm too happy with people who help other people kill themselves (Dr. Kevorkian).

But, I'm also not so sure the government should be involved in telling people whether or not they can kill themselves, and to extrapolate that, whether someone can help them do that or not. If someone wants to kill themself, I don't see how we can make a law against it. And if that someone wants to kill themself but physically cannot do it, having someone assist them may not be something I want my government dictating.
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Postby PACKman1144 » Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:13 am

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PACKman1144 wrote:Not good. No one has the right to take their own life, that is murder. I hate federal government intervention too felllas, but this is so sick and distugusting that there is no way it should be protected by the constitution. ;-7

So let's prosecute all those guilty of suicide! Seriously, if you want to take your own life and you do it in a way that's not going to physically hurt someone else, how can that be illegal?

Are you saying that the government should be able to tell people when they can die? How is that their business?


It should not be legal for a man to make his living by killing people. Ii may not be in a painful way but that's what it is. I don't believe it is our job to decide when we die, I just don't.

And no, I do not think the government should tell you when to die, I do not think that other people should be able to either.

First of all, let me say that I agree with you - suicide is awful and I'm 100% against it.

And I'm not so sure I'm too happy with people who help other people kill themselves (Dr. Kevorkian).

But, I'm also not so sure the government should be involved in telling people whether or not they can kill themselves, and to extrapolate that, whether someone can help them do that or not. If someone wants to kill themself, I don't see how we can make a law against it. And if that someone wants to kill themself but physically cannot do it, having someone assist them may not be something I want my government dictating.


I see where you are coming from. But I see where this kind of thing could go.

So we allow this freak to help people kill themselves, then we allow doctors to recommend patients killing themselves, then we have suicide as an official treatment in every hospital. And now we have a full blown crisis.

I know it's extreme but what this kind of policy could lead to is disaster. Killing/death should never be encouraged by the governemnt, except in times of war (for the soldiers). This is encouraging death: I think it is wrong.

knapplc, I think we come form the same school of though. I don't believe in a lot of government involvment either, but I think to allow this kind of stuff to go on is a travesty(sp?).
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Postby knapplc » Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:17 am

Yeah, I agree. I'm waffling on this a lot because I think suicide is so wrong. Mostly my argument is against government involvement, not pro-suicide or pro-assisting or anything like that.
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Postby PACKman1144 » Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:19 am

knapplc wrote:Yeah, I agree. I'm waffling on this a lot because I think suicide is so wrong. Mostly my argument is against government involvement, not pro-suicide or pro-assisting or anything like that.


yeah I hear ya. Not a fan of the government jumpin' in on other peeps business either. I just think this is so serious that it is necessary...
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Postby SeaWolf » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:26 am

I don't want to start an argument.

If you or a family member is going to die within six months from a slow painfull death. And you can make thier last days on earth a little easier by not living those last painfull days you wouldn't do it?

We can ease the pain and suffering for a pet, but can't do the same for Aunt May if that is her wish? :-? I don't get it. I would not want to spend the last few days of my life in pain, if I was going to dia anyway, if I could avoid it.
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Postby Plindsey88 » Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:49 am

I am anti-overpopulation... I am:

Pro-Gun
Pro-Death Penalty
Pro-Assisted Suicide
Pro-Choice

and

mostly Carnivorous....


I fully believe some lives are worth living and others are not....
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Postby knapplc » Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:55 am

SeaWolf wrote:I don't want to start an argument.

If you or a family member is going to die within six months from a slow painfull death. And you can make thier last days on earth a little easier by not living those last painfull days you wouldn't do it?

We can ease the pain and suffering for a pet, but can't do the same for Aunt May if that is her wish? :-? I don't get it. I would not want to spend the last few days of my life in pain, if I was going to dia anyway, if I could avoid it.

It's an interesting debate, but at the end of the day I don't know that I could help someone kill themself because they were suffering.

I have done a lot of research on the end-life scenario of cancer patients. There are a lot of drugs out there that can just about totally eliminate the pain some of these patients go through towards the end. I would imagine that's a better option than killing yourself.
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