Cornbread Maxwell wrote:You could be right about me nitpicking - but it is just a big pet peeve of mine when people cross statistics to prove talent absent of situation - they simply do not measure talent exclusively.
Take what you wrote above - I would completely agree with everything you wrote - except for the last part. How do we judge if Warner is good, bad or great? I dont really have a good answer since I dont believe statistics measure ability all that well at all.
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Its all about judging players - if you cannot seperate skill and ability from the situation, then you begin to make bad decisions regarding that player's ability. Using common statistic to begin an assesment of a player's talent level already starts you off on the wrong foot and creates myths. Do you understand what I am saying?
Okay CBM - so short of getting a time machine or a magic genie how do you propose we compare players if we can't use stats because they're "biased" by the situations?!
I already posted stats from the averages of other QBs in similar "situations" (other teams that passed for over 30 times a game on average) but that apparently is still no good to you, so short of bending the rules of reality and sticking each of the 32 starting QBs in a rotation that puts them on each of the 32 teams for a season to compare how they do against one another, what basis do we have for judgement other than the all-mighty CBM's opinion?
CBM wrote:You really are missing the point.
I never pretended or claimed to not be biased. I cannot stand Mrs. Warner's Husband - he's a douche. Is that an opinion? Can any opinion not be biased?
No, I didn't miss the point - you did. My point was that you don't have to like the guy, but saying he sucks is completely wrong and there is no way to defend the statement.
I hate the Seahawks myself, but there is no logical way I can contend they suck and not look like an idiot...
Kensat30 wrote:Can we all agree that Warner would have been better than Harrington at least?
Those of us that can use the logical sides of our brains can at least...