I think the Jets would be better off keeping the 4th pick, or trading down to get more picks.
I agree flotsamnjetsam that we should be looking to trade down to fill more needs and I think Disgruntle is in favor of that also. Jets needs a ton of offensive players...QB, RB, TE, WR and OLine!
I think the Jets would be better off keeping the 4th pick, or trading down to get more picks.
I agree flotsamnjetsam that we should be looking to trade down to fill more needs and I think Disgruntle is in favor of that also. Jets needs a ton of offensive players...QB, RB, TE, WR and OLine!
I think the Jets would be better off keeping the 4th pick, or trading down to get more picks.
I agree flotsamnjetsam that we should be looking to trade down to fill more needs and I think Disgruntle is in favor of that also. Jets needs a ton of offensive players...QB, RB, TE, WR and OLine!
Don't forget DE when they trade away Abraham.
Yes and Mario Williams from NC State would be a very nice replacement.
bad news for 2 teams: the saints and the titans, both whom really want matt leinart. if this happens, look for reggie bush to fall to the 3rd, maybe even 4th or 5th pick if the titans take cutler and the texans take ferguson. i doubt the titans would bypass him, but if cutler raises his stock enough, the titans might take him.
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flotsamnjetsam wrote:Like usual I have no idea what the Jets are thinking (if this rumor is true). The Jets have so many needs and are in salary cap hell. With the cuts they have made, and will make, they might help the salary cap situation, but how can they afford to pay #1 overall pick type money to a draft pick? Especially when noone that's being mentioned as the #1 pick is a sure fire lock guaranteed superstar. Noone coming out of college ever is. I think the Jets would be better off keeping the 4th pick, or trading down to get more picks. I think the Jets should find a way to keep John Abraham. Pro Bowl players don't grow on trees and the Jets have a history of horrible drafts. Anyone remember the 1990 Jets #2 overall pick...Blair Thomas? Junior Seau went 3 picks later and Emmitt Smith was the next RB drafted in the 1st round. Like everyone has said for months now, this move makes more sense for Houston. I hope this is just a rumor.
Well, first off a big part of the reason the Jets are in cap hell is a result of both Abraham and Pennington, both of whom are unlikely to be with the team in 2006. Pennington has said he is unwilling to restructure, meaning he will almost surely be cut. Abraham will likely be traded as he has expressed extreme disinterest in returning to the Jets. Curtis Martin is also restructuring, so technically speaking the Jets should be in decent shape cap-wise. Basically, the Jets need to get rid of Pennington at this point, and the only option in their minds is trading up to get Leinart. Clearly they think no.4 is too high for Cutler (crazy if you ask me), and an RB really isnt an option given the complete absence of QB once Penny is gone. Will the jets give up too much if they get trade Abraham and their pick for no.1 overall, absolutely. But would they do it, probably. Abraham is as good as gone, they might as well get their choice of player in the draft for it. BTW, the Texans would make out like bandits in that trade.
The Jets won't be "in decent shape cap-wise" by cutting Pennington, trading Abraham, and restructuring Martin. The Jets won't save much by cutting Pennington. If the Jets cut Pennington, he'll still count over $10 million towards next years cap. The Jets can't keep Pennington at his salary and they can't cut him even though that might be the smart thing to do because of his 2 surgeries on his throwing arm in the last 2 years. That's why they're trying to restructure his contract. Originally Pennington said he wouldn't restructure, but now he has changed his mind and they are trying to restructure his contract as we speak. It might be the wrong thing to do but it's the best thing to do considering the alternatives. I think Abraham will be traded. I just think they should find a way to give him a long term contract and keep him. I've been saying that for a couple of years now. He's a Pro Bowl DE and I don't understand why the Jets didn't lock him up years ago. Like you said, Martin restructured, so that helps. The Jets have various other contracts that are hurting their salary cap. They already cut a few (Ty Law would have counted $10 million or so towards the cap), and they are still trying to restructure a few others (Coles, Mawae).
I still think the Jets would be better off moving down, getting more picks, and addressing their many needs. If Pennington stays or goes, they still need a young QB. They need a RB unless they think Houston could be a full time starter some day. They need O-Line help desperately. They need a good TE and an upgrade at WR's. So that's almost every single offensive position that they need help at. Defensively they might need DL help if Abraham gets traded, unless they feel they're OK with switching to the 3-4. Linebackers might be OK, but it would be nice to have another stud playing with Vilma. We need secondary help as well.
In summary: the Jets salary cap hell is in no way solved by cutting Pennington, trading Abraham, and restructuring Martin. They would still have a lot of work to do to get under the cap. The Jets need so many players at so many positions that it doesn't make sense to trade up to gamble on filling only one of their needs. This is just my opinion and things could change from today. Like usual the Jets are screwed and no matter what we do this year it looks like we'll be fighting for the #1 pick again next year.
salary cap shouldnt be an issue by the time draft day comes. all teams have to be under the cap by march 2nd, so all teams should be ok once draft day comes around. they may have lost a lot of players, but they will still be at or under the cap.
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steelerfan513 wrote:salary cap shouldnt be an issue by the time draft day comes. all teams have to be under the cap by march 2nd, so all teams should be ok once draft day comes around. they may have lost a lot of players, but they will still be at or under the cap.
I'm sorry, but it is a big issue. If you have one of the top picks in the draft, you need to have some cap room if you want to sign a big time 1st round player. If you just barely make it under the cap, chances are you're going to struggle to do that. Sure, everyone has to get under the cap by a certain time, but these teams have to allow room to sign their draft picks so it definitely is a big issue.
steelerfan513 wrote:salary cap shouldnt be an issue by the time draft day comes. all teams have to be under the cap by march 2nd, so all teams should be ok once draft day comes around. they may have lost a lot of players, but they will still be at or under the cap.
I'm sorry, but it is a big issue. If you have one of the top picks in the draft, you need to have some cap room if you want to sign a big time 1st round player. If you just barely make it under the cap, chances are you're going to struggle to do that. Sure, everyone has to get under the cap by a certain time, but these teams have to allow room to sign their draft picks so it definitely is a big issue.
Exactly. That's why I stated in my 1st post that I can't see the Jets being able to pay #1 draft pick type money to a draft pick. If the Jets want to move up to #1, they not only have to cut $26+ million dollars to get at the cap, they would have to cut another $5-$10 million dollars to be able to sign their draft picks. I'm not saying that that's impossible, but with all the Jets needs it doesn't seem like the smart thing to do. Then again the Jets don't usually do the smart thing.
Jets | Team not interested in moving up to No. 1?
Tue, 28 Feb 2006 05:28:18 -0800
Gary Myers, of the New York Daily News, reports despite earlier reports, the New York Jets are not one of the teams interested in trading up to the Houston Texans' No. 1 spot. "There's nothing to it," said a source familiar with the Jets' thinking.
It would be foolish to cut Penny with the cap hit they would take for it. Granted everyone should be skittish on whether he can stay healthy for a full year, but he has had an extra 4 months to heal his shoulder than he had last year. Draft D'Briq with the 4th pick to be the brick wall on Chad's backside, think of him as Chad's insurance policy. Try and keep Abraham at all costs. He's a game changer and they don't grow on trees. I have never understood why people have faith in Bryan Thomas to affect a game. You are going to need some stability on the team. It's bad enough they had to cut Mawae today. I understand rebuilding but burning down the house makes no sense whatsoever.
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